Hell of a wreck, hope he is ok.

I don’t know who he is, but I Hope is is OK also.

I don't like what I'm seeing from drivers.

Awful quite at celebration in victory lane.

NASCAR blows!

Lot of damage on his side of the car.

I got a very bad feeling he is not okay.

Same here, I got a real bad feeling on this one. I think they knew when they signed off early, you could tell by the post race interviews.

This is like when Earnhardt died. No mention of his condition until they announced his death.

My wife and I fear the worst.

I don't think this is good at all. I haven't seen looks on the drivers faces like that since Sr. was killed.

https://youtu.be/4yNdkcxF7OU

https://youtu.be/igIzNTTdGbs

Nasty.

Replay was sparse but looked like he got close to the absolute worst possible contact while upside down.

My sincere hopes are with him.

Damn. That was bad. Wow.

Wow

This is my wife's biggest nightmare, she never says anything about it untill something like this happens. It ain't something I can let enter my my, it just comes with the territory. I don't worry about it, she's the one that has too.

Not good. Havent seen anything like this sense Sr. died.

NASCAR site isn't saying chit about Newman other than he went to a hospital. Fugk, we already knew that. Not good.

That looked unsurvivable in spite of all the safety features. Multiple angle hits plus a flip which rotated the car even more, then landing on what was left of the roof sliding for hundreds of feet. By the grace of God..............

Your boyfriend said the same about you.

Ass-hole!

Yeo, that was a douchebag move.

Is anyone reporting on his condition?

DF

CPR? That certainly doesn't sound good.

I don’t watch much NASCAR, but I caught the 15 minutes. That wreck was a rough one.

Once again lowlife Denny Hamlin and the no class JGR Team show what complete POS's they are.
Partying like rock stars while another driver is still in his car upside down, on fire and unconscious.

I've been scouring ,and can't find anything.

Gibbs just released a statement appologizing,said they didn't know the severity.

No one is saying anything which leads me to believe it ain't good.

Saw it live.

Hoping the best for Ryan and his family.

Prayers on the way for Mr. Newman. I fear the worst.

Fox Nascar
Nascar on Fox

How were they supposed to know, almost every race ends that way and they just climb out of their cars and walk away.

I was told the crew erected a screen around the car and asked the media to leave the area.

It had to be critical for those actions to be taken.

You dont party untill everyone is out of their cars. The car was right by victory lane.

How many race cars you been in?

Hundreds. I've spent my entire adult life involved in racing.
You?

Have been checking that as well,and nothing current yet.

Yea, hundreds, and I'm a two time world champion 1/4 mile dragboat racer, entering my 24th season.

Holy cow that was a bad wreck.

Fingers crossed for Ryan Newman and his worried family.

I'm not a fan of JGR but Joe Gibbs is a decent man

If he did get CPR at the scene, that is a really bad sign; the head on hit into the wall was very close to the type of hit that killed Dale Sr, plus the flip & the hard roof landing.

Newman is one of the good guys, IMO & I surely hope he pulls through.

NASCAR thinks the fans like pack racing & crash-'em-ups, I guess...................they have been very lucky that no one else has been killed in all the last 2-3 lap crashes over the last few years completely due to their desire to make it "interesting". I;m just surprised that they can get 42 drivers that want to risk their lives.

And I used to love NASCAR & had an annual credential, been to most of the major tracks.

MM

So that's why you don't know anything about asphalt racing or the Daytona track.
You didn't even know where on the track his car was laying and where the winners circle is. STFU

Every driver in the field knew how Daytona is played, and all signed on for it.
Ryan would have been pushing if the situation had been reversed.

Yes, that's true, & half the field is pretty low on experience in that kind of racing as well.

MM

Been there many times Yank, I probably forgot more about dirt track and asphalt racing than you'll ever know. Almost every saturday night in the off season I'm racing d bag.

Ryan is a good guy. I am worried about this one.

Dick measuring contest is inappropriate in this thread.

That looked like a harder hit into the wall than the hit that killed Dale Earnhardt at Daytona. Not to mention the T-bone driver door hit.

Hope Newman is okay. No reliable word that I can find on his condition.

Hamlin was too aggressive bump drafting in the final turn.

Was not the wall hit but the car hitting the roof and drivers side.

Maybe someone else knows this, but does NASCAR post a medical chopper in the infield? At those speeds, the fluid dynamics of the human body would lead to a ruptured aorta. Even the immediate use of MAST trousers is no help. Hopefully, there can be good news.

I'm no expert by any means, but it looks like any one of the three impacts could have been fatal.

Taking that full force hit from the other car didn’t do him any favors. That was a horrible crash. Fingers crossed that he’ll pull it out.

This is correct. Many drivers have impacted the safer-barrier almost head on since Dale died They have all pretty much walked away.

Ryan was exposed to the oncoming car while upside down.

Sure wish Denny would have told Fox to f’ off until Ryan was found to be ok.

That woman in victory lane was too much for me.Had to turn it off.

Didn't watch any of the post race.


Didn't even know(or care) who won I was so distracted by Newman's wreck.

I hate to repeat possible rumors but saw on a Nascar twitter post that Newman is in serious to critical condition.

Just heard about it.

Hope it is not that serious.

I remember Waltrip celebrating victory the day Earnhardt was killed. He just didn't know.

Don't want to jump the gun, but someone in the comments here said he was alive and talking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjBL6P0K5xE

A good guy and probably the most outspoken driver when it comes to the wreckfests at plate-tracks.

For years he has talked about the inevitability of this exact scenario.

Man he took several bad hits,, hope he pulls through.

https://popculture.com/sports/2020/...ytona-500-crash-penske-employee-reveals/

Now the reports are saying stable non-life threatening.

https://twitter.com/nascar/

whoo hoo!!!

Sounds like good news coming out now. Could have been a lot worse.

If Newman does in fact survive, NASCAR has reason to be really proud of the safety built into these cars. That crash looked impossible to survive.

Yes, sir, it most certainly did.

Fox reporting serious injuries, but at this time not life threatening. I hope their information is accurate.

Man gives you a sick feeling and my only news on this is right here, I wasn't watching. I hope he makes a complete recovery and will behind the wheel again.

Amazing that he made it. Still sounds serious though.

Refuse to watch the wreck, simply can't unsee it.


Thank God for the good news regarding his life, let's pray that he sees full recovery.

Times like this I remember a Indy car driver from many years ago who brought his car to the pits after a multi car incident
There was a tire mark over his helmet.
Said he always promised himself he would quit when racing when it stopped being fun
and it had just stopped

If anyone cares to watch it this is a clear image. Notice how the car buckles when T boned on the drivers side (up side down). Imagine the forces on his brain.

https://twitter.com/ArminVehs/status/1229613618930434049?s=20

Scary stuff

Thank you bald1 for posting that.

I didn’t watch any of the race but I’ve know him since he started in NASCAR.
So glad he’s doing that well.

I’ve seen some wrecks that seemed UNsurvivable. Glad this one was survivable.

That "buckle" is by design. Absorbs some of the impact..

Yes.

Older vehicles involved in wrecks make you wonder why the occupants died.

Newer vehicles involved in wrecks make you wonder how the occupants survived.

Better news than I thought I'd be hearing. Damn glad he survived that crash. Got to say this about the 'fire here: you guys had better updates than NASCAR or espn did.
By a mile! Props to you who do follow NASCAR or maybe don't, but, followed this race and what happened. Some of you guys were watching. Just glad Newman survived.

A classic case of some things don't seem what they are. Love old cars and trucks with big ass frames and big heavy body parts. Easy to work on, build off and strong. Turns out you want to be in a new wrinkle box though in a crash. Those engineers aren't just here to piss us off they got some savy..

I was watching it live (we were at the race). What a scary wreck. How a driver survives being t-boned on the driver’s door while upside down by a car oncoming at 180+ mph is beyond me. I guess a combination of the intrusion cage and doors, the driver’s seat, and the angle of the nose of the car that hit him made that survivable. What looked even worse is that when the car came to a stop, there was fire coming out of the fuel fill port, and fuel was pouring out of the ruptured fuel cell onto the ground but somehow did not ignite, and the fire suppression guys were able to get it put out. Newman could have been burned alive while upside down if the car went up before the fire guys got there. That said, I would still guess he has some pretty serious injuries that he’s going to have to deal with.

It was a scary wreck. Hard into the wall, catches air and flips1-2 then hit upside down directly on drivers door. Could easily believe that could be a fatal crash, or paralyzing, or permanent brain damage.

Now I am not a big race fan, but I knew of drafting, but didn't really know of pushing. It sure seemed like a lot of pushing. Was there more pushing than normal?

Man, I was really expecting the worst this morning.
Not a huge racing fan but was watching the finish,and thought it was a fatal.
Thank goodness he survived.

You have to give credit to NASCAR for tor making those cars as safe as they are. It is absolutely amazing the punishment a car can take, and have the driver survive with little to no injury.

There has always been (at least since the ‘90’s) a lot of bump drafting at the restrictor tracks.

Thank God that man is going home to his family.Be interesting to hear from the chap that delivered that pit maneuver.

I'm not a fan of the bumping at 200 mph.

Prayers go out to "The Rocket". I hope he recovers fully. Just because he's alive, doesn't mean he's OK.

No need to be pissed at Hamlin for celebrating. He had just won the Daytona 500. You unplug your radio and there's no way to know. Everyone figures that everyone is OK until they hear otherwise. I remember when Earnhardt got killed, Micheal was standing on top of his car in the infield celebrating. He had no idea that his boss and close friend had just passed. These sort of wrecks happen and since Earnhardt died, they haven't lost anyone due to the safety upgrades made.

Here is Austin Dillin's wreck from 2015 in the exact same spot, but he went into the fence. Pretty vicious. Notice the engine and transmission come out of the car and lands in the grass. Not only does he go into the catch fence, but then he gets T Boned by Keslowski. Dillin walked away. It gets good at the 1:30 mark.

Gibbs put a squash on the celebrating as soon as they found it, they didn't know, radios were unplugged, etc.

How that thing didn't also turn into a fireball is beyond me, I was assuming that was gas puring out.

Yes, I believe it was gas pouring out of the gas tank. How it didn't ignite is beyond me. That's why they wear fire suits.

Another thing about this wreck was the fact that he was hanging upside down for several minutes before they got him out of there. I'm sure that didn't help his cause either.

The safety engineering in those cars is amazing,

Driver safety has come a long way since the late 1940's when my family ran a 34 Ford coupe on the first dirt track in Nashville Tennessee. Back then, a car would usually have a single roll bar made from whatever water pipe the car owner could scavenge up, and a cut-down oil drum or a military surplus aircraft seat for the driver. Fire suit? How about a pair of overalls and a T shirt! Seat belts were usually surplus items from a B-17 or something similar. The fuel tank on our car was a beer keg, mostly because it was stainless steel and would resist the corrosive properties of the methanol and hydrogen peroxide fuel mix better than a regular gas tank. One of the cars a local owner sent to run at Daytona in the early 1950's got disqualified- - - -it had a "roll cage" made of wood fence posts.

The first time I witnessed a fatal accident was at a little dirt track in central Indiana in the mid-1960's. The flagman would run to the middle of the track on a restart, wave the green flag, and sprint for the infield as the cars accelerated out of the #4 turn. He tripped on a rut in the track, fell, and got run over by the lead car before he could get out of the way. The driver tried to stop or swerve to miss him, only to be pushed along by the next car in line because the driver couldn't see what was happening.

I've survived one crash that broke my car in half, with only a cut on my hand and a chipped vertebra, and gotten run over in the pits by a car that jumped the track wall after a wreck and hit three of us who were standing too close to the track . That one resulted in a few scrapes and bruises but no serious injuries. Even with the extensive safety precautions of today, racing is still a dangerous pastime. So is skydiving, rock climbing, and a lot of other things adrenaline junkies do. Golfers get hit by lightning, too!
Jerry

Hey, if you're behind the lead car and near the finish, just kill the leader and get the win.

If he lives through that, I'm gonna build a NASCAR car to hide in during earthquakes & tornadoes!

Unfortunately, that is pretty accurate.

I bet I know where you can pick up one cheap...

Very interesting - thanks for posting. I remember a lot of that from the early sixties, as well. Of particular interest was the seat made from a cut-down oil drum. I remember that vividly and thinking that it wouldn't do a spine a lot of good to be bent along with that thing.
Also big was the use of "hardware cloth" as a mud screen in front of the driver. Along with t-shirts, I remember letterman's jackets being worn, as well as cotton, "grease-monkey" overalls.

Great game. Then everyone can say, "Dayom, that's bad. I hated to see that."

Dale Ernhardt died on this date in 2001

Having been involved in a gasoline fire (but in the pits), I was watching the fluids with intense interest until the safety crew got there. I actually think the fluid that was coming out was hot oil and not gasoline. With the volatility of gasoline, I think it would have fireballed immediately. Don't know for sure, just guessing

I too was watching that fluid gush out and when it didn't ignite figured it couldn't be gasoline. What other fluid reservoirs are in the rear of a Cup car? Oil cooler? Transmission cooler? Driver cold-box thingy? Is there any coolant/anti-freeze line/reservoirs in the rear of the car? I watch a few Nascar races this time of year until the ice comes off of our lakes then I'm in the boat so I'm not at all versed in the intricacies of what's where in a Cup car.

I doubt it could be bought.

It will likely be studied for quite some time by rules makers, safety teams, maybe car builders to all learn from. Some complain about the car of tomorrow, all being the same, but it may have save Newmans life. As one thing the COT did was move the driver further away from the side of the car.
NASCAR might make mistakes from time to time but they're not stupid when it comes to safety. If they see failures in safety systems in Newmans car, they'll change
things.

Dale Sr's death might have saved Newmans life as the Hans device wasn't mandatory when Dale died & it's been said that one could have saved him. They are now mandatory.

I don't keep up with the series much anymore, but I still appreciate the talent of the drivers, builders & certain efforts by the sanctioning body.

Most dry sump oil systems have about 5 gallons of oil contained in a pressurized tank so the engine doesn't lose oil pressure in the turns. Oil is scavenged out of a very shallow oil pan and routed to another stage of a belt-driven pump assembly where it's sent to a storage tank inside the roll cage. There's probably around 100 PSI or so in the tank and the lines back to the engine used for lubrication. Rupture the tank, or break a few lines, and hot oil will spray everywhere. It's not as flammable as gasoline, but I wouldn't want to be sitting in a pool of it waiting to be rescued!

Dale Sr. had a habit of loosening up his safety harness as a race progressed and it's possible that allowed him to bounce around inside the roll cage during his crash. I watched that one on TV, and I remarked to my wife that he was either completely unhurt, or dead. The ambulance left the crash site too leisurely to be transporting a badly injured driver.
Jerry

I bet I know where you can pick up one cheap...

Engine oil tank was, for a time behind driver side front wheel. Differential oil cooler &/or tank in front of passenger side rear wheel. Trans oil cooler/tank was about middle ways.
That leaves engine coolant & driver cool suit/helmet tanks. I don''t know if they use straight water, glycol or alcohol based coolant for the engine. But I had gotten a bit excited & was standing about 3 feet from the TV when it happened. The fluid that was running out was clear & a very low viscosity. I feared it would blow any second, but it wasn't likely fuel.

We used to be liable for huge fines from the track officials if we got caught using anything other than water in a cooling system. Glycol is so slippery that even a radiator overflow can venting onto the track could cause a spinout and a chain reaction wreck. There was some sort of surface tension reducer called "water wetter" that was legal to run, but I'm not sure what chemical it contained.
Jerry

Shaklee Basic H?

Non life threatening doesn’t rule out A LOT of scenarios.
Head and spinal injuries are a real possibility.
I hope to see him up and walking whether he races another day or not.

I didn't watch the race but went and looked at the video of the crash. Yikes! It is really amazing that he wasn't killed the second that car hit his drivers side.

Just read an update that says he is conscious and speaking with doctors.

From what we were watching on the big screen at the race, it sure looked like the fuel cell ruptured and that was fuel leaking out. Looking at the videos after we got home, if it was fuel it should have ignited being as close as it was to the flames coming out of the fuel filler valve. That said, it may have been coolant/water for the suit/helmet cooling system, but I don’t know that for sure. Hopefully someone will advise for sure. Still waiting to hear what Newman’s injuries were from this, as I fear they will be significant.

Lucky guy!

Don’t ya reckon he sustained burns, even with the fire suit?

Would be nice to know extent of his injuries.

DF

Car didn't really catch on fire, and even if it did he would not have sustained burns unless he was in there for a long time. The Nomex suits are very good.
Reportts have him awake and talking with doctors, 'bout all we know.

Just read that Ryan Newman is up walking and fully alert. Good deal!

I wonder if he will be running all over the track again trying to block another car that's trying to pass him.

Great news...... Thank you. And best wishes to Ryan !

Great! thanks for the update.

If he's able to race again I'm sure he will. That's what you do to win.

That's racing

He’s a race car driver.

It's probably this or similar. I used it in my 6.0 Ford.

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-802...ative=165953&creativeASIN=B000CPI5ZK

What did he win? Seems all he had to do while being in the lead was step on the gas and stay ahead of the competition by racing his follower to the finish.

He no doubt was all out on the gas, but the following car was getting a great draft and could blow by if given any opening.

LUCKY DRIVER!

https://nesn.com/2020/02/ryan-newman-update-amazing-photo-shows-nascar-driver-alert-and-walking/

Newman is one the hardest drivers to try to pass. He doesn't cut much slack and the other guys have to work real hard to get past him.

It don't just work that way.

He’s been released from from Halifax Medical Center.

Bingo

Great news! It would be interesting to know what was going on the whole time that the world had written him off at the track.

My guess is that they were following protocol for a potential life threatening injury, both in care and reporting.

Which if great, and they should have. I was referencing the gloom and doom being spread.

Wasn't he previously listed as "Serious but non life threatening injuries"?

No news is bad news.

Radio news an hour ago said he was out of the hospital.

No one else heard anything?

Bad week for Ryan.



Dale Jr comments on race below.

Well, that or bump him out, I guess.

PTL.

https://www.wesh.com/article/ryan-newman-released-hospital-daytona-500-crash/31001544

This was pretty funny last year. Boyer was trying to get his ass kicked. At least he could have taken his helmet off. Newman is hard to pass and he ain't gonna cut any slack. It pisses people off, but that's racing.