OK with financing the junk in the bill not related to the C19 issue?

Oh hell no!!!

I am not well studied on the matter, but from what I gather................I say they can keep it. It aint worth the money we would get.




JMHO.

Haven't looked at it. Figured they were going to do what they were going to do anyway. Y'all know who my Senators are, right? As if they listen to my desired when I call.

Gross version of the offending subject matter please?

Geno

6MMWASP: Probably not but maybe nanny piglosi will do the right thing and "remove the pork"?
Ha-ha-ha gotcha.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

$350,000,000 to comfort and help illegals...hell no!

FAHQ NO!!!!!!!

The real question is, are you willing to crash the economy over it?

Are you saying that if the democrats don't get their candy the economy crashes

WHAAAAAT?

Geno

Am I okay with the end of capitalism in the US, am i okay with communist rule over the citizens in this country, am I okay with every decision I could make for myself being made by the government. In a word NO.

This is the biggest overreach of rights in the history of the USA we are literally being told we cannot go to work. F uck these commie POS's

Hey you can get that new can opener

Pretty much.

Not sure I agree with that but everyone has a thought.

Go to you tube and watch , We are living the 12 monkeys. It tells why they are using this virus to push social welfare of everybody. This virus is a means to and end. We have already lost the right to peaceably assemble. Tis is BS

I don't need to go to u-tube 12 monkeys to watch s hit. Any objective person can see this is not freedom, this is not what our country is built on. In the end the cost of what they are doing will cause fare more loss of life than the virus ever could. You are talking about destabilizing the greatest superpower the world has ever know. We are living an apocalyptic scenario and the leaders are just continuing to lead us down the path of destruction. All these decisions will be looked back at through histories lens as an epic failure to manage the situation. What a s hit show.

Democrats, once again, demonstrate they are the party of slavery! They are literally making tax slaves out of our children and grandchildren! They continue to work relentlessly to eliminate the middle class and permanently enshrine themselves with power! Know these bastatds have filing cabinets full of riders at the ready to insert into any bill they think stands a chance of passing. Load it up with all the pork they think they can get away with!

Treasonous SOBs. And the republicans aren’t much better.

Whole freaking thing is as joke

+1,000

Democrats cant do anything for anybody without them coming out on top, say there giving you $1000, your only be getting like $730 after taxes, goverment got to get
there [bleep]. Like all the pork the Democrats wants, so much for helping the American people. Democrats are the lowest from of life, wouldnt surprise me if they didnt start the covid19 virus, would they do something like that, HELL YES THEY WOULD

I think the dems DID start the virus. china and Bloomberg have decided to try to get rid of trump. Bloomberg stand to loose billions if trump gets the trade deal with china that he wants. americans need to wake up and fight the dems.they are terrorist at home and will soon have to treated as such.

I'd be okay if they'd spend it to round them up and send them back.

Spot on.

But the $25M Endowment for the Arts is the difference between life and death.



Said some f’n libtard.

The only comfort and help the US Government is supposed to give them is to deliver them to their nation of citizenship.

Oh I don't know, the internment of American citizens and rationing during WW2 was pretty outreaching.

Don't get me wrong I'm not real fond of what's going on at present but we've had it worse.

I don't understand the unemployment plus an extra $600 a week. We're paying people more than if they were on the job.


The guy working at fcckin Walmart who's surrounded by the walking dead doesn't even get $600 a week and he's at work.

Understand that deflating the dollar is the same as massively raising taxes. I agree with virtually nothing .gov is doing.

Does anyone have a link to a list of all the NON virus related stuff in the bill? The media isn't saying much about that.

Help them find their way back across the border.

This.

Trouble is, instead of just sitting down and saying "What NEEDS to be done" both parties decided it was a great time to play politics over it. There's plenty of blame for both sides of the aisle in this [bleep] show. Personally, I do believe we need to do everything we can to slow down the spread of this virus and flatten out the curve, but pumping TOO MUCH money out will just tank the value of the dollar and could prolong the recovery peeriod.

On the plus side, it very well could end the toilet paper shortage...greenbacks could get cheaper.

Yeah, that was probably the selling point for the r`s to get on board.... The way it played out, it wouldn`t surprise me if the r`s were in on the pelosis stunt from the get go.

First thought in my head also.....

It's not a perfect bill, did anyone with any sense and the bare minimum of ejimakation think it would be?
"A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week."

Look at what we have on both sides of the Aisle in Washington. Look at what were our last 3 2 term presidents. Every last one a piece of [bleep], didn't;t see this outrage when idiot Bush started Homeland Security.

If they had played Chicken with the economy, it would have been a prolonged slowdown. As it is now it will take a few months to fire up the entire nations supply chain.

I wonder how long it will take to get the Chinese import show rolling. I sure hope this is a wakeup call to all the American companies who've sent our jobs offshore.

The 350 million to help illegals is a problem unless of course trump has plan to tell one of his key employees to use. It for bus rides back to Mexico or build some more fence with it. MB

With all thiis hoopla, somtimes I feel just like WE THE PEOPLE are allowing a really good crisis to go to waste.

Then again nothing new. It’s been happening a bunch lately.

A lot of companies better get in line, maybe this was a wake up call maybe not. There is a lot of phugging Greed right now. It will take 2-3 years minimum to move stuff away from the yellow satan.


If Trump wins in 2020 then I think he will really push the issue with these CEOS. If a communist wins then they will go back to their evil ways. They don;'t care about people not in power, they want to be a thin layer of wealth and power over a bunch of stooges that continue to vote for them.

We can’t keep glossing over systemic problems with OUR (.gov) and our kids’ money. Sooner or later we have to pay the piper for our willingness to allow certain critical parts of the economy to be outsourced to our chief of enemies, and for cronyism.

It isn’t and never was “too big to fail”; it’s “too big NOT to fail”.

Why not let that be us now rather than our grandchildren or great grandchildren?

I don’t think the government should do anything. They’ve already done far too much, and as was noted, this sense of emergency only adds insanity to an already over the top insane culture in DC.

It wasn't BIG enough. Spend it all, printing presses wide open. Let's start the dominoes falling. Armageddon here we come. Break out the copious ammo reserves.
Check the food stockpiles. Muster friends and family. Hunker down. Trust no one.

But first the sun's out and it gonna hit 75 today. One more day living, one more day of freedom, one more day. But then tomorrow ;
LET THE CULLING COMMENCE !

Sounds like Trump should not sign it.

How long does he have to not sign it before it becomes law anyway?

There is no doubt this spending bill is full of pork barrel spending intended to advance the liberal agenda. Funding for NPR, Planned Parenthood, illegal immigrants and who knows what else. This event will also be used to expand government and take away individual rights.
On the other hand, I think a lot of people are having their eyes opened about what is really going on. Pelosi tried to pack the bill with a lot more pork barrel spending and got shut down. Trump's approval rating has increased. There are corrupt, self-serving politicians on both sides of the aisle but I think more republicans see supporting Trump as the best way to enhance their own political careers. Not saying they support him, but more and more people are supporting him as the democrats continue to reveal their true agenda and fail at moving it forward. Politicians are all self-centered and some are realizing they can further their career by supporting Trump. I don't think Trump is a politician but he is learning how politics work.

Nancy said it was a bubble up plan What is the hold up with the Grim Reaper?

Don't crash the economy. Just stop the shutdown. They're burning down the house to eliminate the spiders and then giving everyone motel vouchers paid for with borrowed money. This can't last.

3.3 million unemployment claims. About 4 TIMES the previous record and they ain't even started yet.

In 2007--2009 there were 5,000 excess suicides due to the economic strife. How many will there be this time? 20,000? 30,000?

Always remember, when you are helpless, sick and dying the dems can be counted on to stall and eventually give you a barbed wire suppository


Don'tcha just want more of everything they are selling?

The question shouldn't be "whats in the bill" but "why the bill". Who cares where the money goes, its all fake, just ones and zeros on a frigging' computer.... And we get stuck holding the empty bag.

There should't be a bale out bill, there shouldn't have been TARP, QE, QE2, QE3, QE4... ad nausium. We're broke!

What about the additional $4 trillion going to wall street along with this bill, after how many more $trillions they've pumped into the banksters since last fall? Remember that $trillion, trillion and a half they shoved into wall street when the Dow and S&P were sliding into the abyss, all in one day? The market still tanked.

But they are the Masters Of The Universe and they are all knowing, they tell us.
Accept, one problem,they're insane. They truly believe they can fix the worlds' debt problem by increasing the debt....

.... where's Mr. Einstein?

Nope and it will be owed back in form of income tax next year.

Nope.......

Anything else is pork and concession B.S.

Like the artsy fartsy kennedy center schit......

And giving it to welfarites.

Giving way more unemployment bennies than what some make.


Its all a bid to scream universal income schitt when it ends
And how unfair it is to stop it after people got used to a higher standard of income.

Just watch and see......
The Liberal Socialist Democrats will be screaming bloody murder when it stops.

I hope a 2nd round never happens.

"Are you OK with the concessions in the $2T bill?"

Do I have a choice? Yeah, didn't think so. Until term limits are put on those writing the bills, I will never have a choice. Oh yeah, I know, vote, well I've learned that my vote doesn't get me much.

Total s hit show...

Let me make this perfectly clear - I am not in favor of this bill but I did not get a chance to vote on it either. Those hardest hit by this are the people working for a living who have very little financial cushion and are facing layoff. People are realizing these people are the ones that keep our country going. Not the sports figures and actors whose opinions don't matter. Not the talking heads on the MSM.

I am not ok with ANY of it. You wanna help us out? Kill the income tax. Kill the self employment taxes. Kill the personal property tax. Kill the Medicare taxes, SS taxes, and a host of others. With all that extra money, people would be able to spend, and government would have to shrink to exist within the increased sales tax revenues. There would be pain generated from the social net being burnt, but people need to learn to be dependent on themselves, their families and their communities rather than the feds, and far better to do it in a controlled fashion than to do it in chaos when the checks start bouncing.

However, it is plain to see that no one in DC or the various state capitols has any interest in shrinking government or making the hard choices to get America back to a nation of industrious, ingenuous and hardworking self sufficient people. Every recession and depression that has happened to this nation has been because of the central bank and its government enablers.

It was not the people who caused the Great Depression. They just suffered through it. Same with all the recessions from then to now. Government is the problem. The central bank is the problem. So why do we look to either of them to fix anything? It’s like letting the jerk that steals from everyone in the neighborhood house sit for you when you go on vacation. And we keep doing it. WTF???

You wanna know how well government works? I ordered a second plate for my truck back in December when I licensed it. MO only gives you a front plate for any license weight over 12000 lbs. I was traveling a lot in states that issue two plates, so I paid the extra 16 bucks to get a rear plate. As if 200 bucks a year plus personal property taxes isn’t enough to cover a second plate.

The plates are good for a year, expire every December. It is nearly April. I have called three times about this, end up as the 45th caller in line when I do. Still no plate. Gal at DMV says I have to deal with the headquarters at the capitol. Says they had to fire a bunch of people and are having a backlog while they hire new ones. Like I care. You demand I have these plates. I do not buy them because I want them. Your job is to supply a frigging plate when I pay for it. And they can’t even do that.

When your state government can’t even supply a license plate, what else are they failing at? And the feds are certainly no better. It’s time we cut them off pout of our checkbooks and sent them all home to get a real job. Or to the gallows. God knows most of them deserve it.

So true

I too would like to see a return to the constitutional government created by the founding fathers. Not gonna happen.

Hes lucky if he gets 600 a month

How many of them have iPhones, iPads, i this's, and i that's? How many eat out numerous times per week and drink Starbucks each morning? How many have cable TV?

People don't save for hard times anymore. That's their fault. Why do we have to constantly bail them out?

It’s very hard too. The Democrats are despicable; the R’s, always conciliatory. If I was Trump, I’d hold a press conference with a white board, black sharpie and have listed the garbage Pelosi and Schumer put in it and the resultant price.

This plus make Pelosi and Schumer sit there the whole time till it's over and then leave them to the press

Evey time I hear or see Pelosi or Schumer it makes my blood pressure go up, we need to bring back old west justice

Looked it up. If Trump doesn't sign the bill within 10 days it becomes law anyway. Hope he doesn't then when the SHTF he can say it wasn't me, call your congressman and senator.

No, I'm not ok with it. Its sucks!

Your point is well taken. The bottom line is not that people don't make enough money, the bottom line is they spend too much money. My point is people on welfare, food stamps, etc. should not be getting more money from the taxpayers. Those who are retired and their income is not affected by the shutdown should not be getting a check from the taxpayers. This is nothing more than buying votes in an election year.

But for which team?

Both

So these checks that most people are supposed to get probably account for about 0.2 trillion of the 2.2 trillion. Where is the other 2 trillion going?

Bb