WTF.
Emergency official says 3M selling masks to foreign countries

https://www.foxnews.com/media/florida-emergency-official-3m-selling-masks-overseas



This should be stopped. America first please?

It is true, and Trump is already kicking them in the twat.

Border patrol and Customs will be monitoring shipments straight from the factory.

3M Distributors will probably end up with a very well earned kick in the nuts.

LOL,
You do have a way with words. Nicely done.

I hope he fines the fuuuck out of them!

President Trump Invokes Defense Production Act Taking Control of 3M Production…

I’m not a big fan of government nationalizing private industry; but sheesh, if these multinationals won’t put America First during a crisis, then it becomes needed. It didn’t take long for 3M to chase profits over patriotism, and end up in hot water:

”The Secretary, through the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (Administrator), shall use any and all authority available under the Act to acquire, from any appropriate subsidiary or affiliate of 3M Company, the number of N-95 respirators that the Administrator determines to be appropriate.”…

SUBJECT: Order Under the Defense Production Act Regarding 3M Company

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Defense Production Act of 1950, as amended (50 U.S.C. 4501 et seq.) (the “Act”), it is hereby ordered as follows:


Section 1. Policy. On March 13, 2020, I declared a national emergency recognizing the threat that the novel (new) coronavirus known as SARS-CoV-2 poses to our healthcare systems. In recognizing the public health risk, I noted that on March 11, 2020, the World Health Organization announced that the outbreak of COVID-19 (the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2) can be characterized as a pandemic.

I also noted that while the Federal Government, along with State and local governments, have taken preventive and proactive measures to slow the spread of the virus and to treat those affected, the spread of COVID-19 within our Nation’s communities threatens to strain our Nation’s healthcare systems.

I further noted that, to ensure that our healthcare systems are able to surge capacity and capability to respond to the spread of COVID-19, it is critical that all health and medical resources needed to respond to the spread of COVID-19 are properly distributed to the Nation’s healthcare systems and others that need them most at this time. Accordingly, I found that health and medical resources needed to respond to the spread of COVID-19, including personal protective equipment and ventilators, meet the criteria specified in section 101(b) of the Act (50 U.S.C. 4511(b)).

Sec. 2. Presidential Direction to the Secretary of Homeland Security (Secretary). The Secretary, through the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (Administrator), shall use any and all authority available under the Act to acquire, from any appropriate subsidiary or affiliate of 3M Company, the number of N-95 respirators that the Administrator determines to be appropriate.

Sec. 3. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This memorandum shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

DONALD J. TRUMP

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ents-while-u-s-states-look-for-products/

Did 3M break a law?

In the rather lengthy press briefing on 4/2/2020 President Trump talked about 2 shipments of protective equipment that left the US. He said "I let it Go" because they were previously signed contracts. I think his invoking the Defense Production Act will prevent future occurrences of this type. He also addressed the issue of The Feds competing with the states in bidding wars. He also said if 2 states were bidding against each other one of the states would have to "step away".

Pillow guy had his company convert to mask production, I don't think masks are very hard to make. Every state should assist local companies to produce. Personally I don't think this is complex.

The PRC nationalized them so they would keep their masks there and not ship them here. Multinational corps will have to be treated differently in the future and I mean those that produce strategic assets. I don't have an answer on how they should do this.

Minnesota lieberal demoncraps at work.

3M's CEO is scheduled to be on Fox & Friends this morning, according to a friend of mine who sells for 3M.

I don't know his politics or if he is a Liberal or not, but I do know that he is a POS.

Plenty of Republican POS as well.

Don’t you clowns understand the simple concept of contracts? Good grief!

Funny to see the difference in this threads attitude and that of the guy that marked up the masks he had at 700%.

I guess not, please explain how selling to the highest bidder with CASH is fulfilling contracts.

Let's clear something up. It's 3M distributors that were doing that. Do we know if 3Ms distributors are independent? If they are, then 3M didn't sell the masks overseas.

Jared Moskowitz told "Tucker Carlson Tonight" Thursday that he discovered that 3M distributors were prioritizing foreign buyers after they refused to sell him the essential equipment.

I have supply of 3M R95 masks, paperwork states Made in USA with globally sourced materials. These also help filter out odors. Americans make very nice face masks.
This is good gesture by 3M giving USA good PR. Italians are getting help form China, Russia and Cuba. Lets be honest CIA reports condemning China can't compete with genuine help.

It would please me greatly if you would move to China.

Anyone wanna bet he's in full-on "Pass the Buck" mode. We didn't know, blah blah blah. We couldn't control blah blah blah.

A real leader would've wondered how in the heck are people running out in the USA when we're making 10 Million masks/week. I better check on where they're going.

He also said that 3M did not put measures in place after this outbreak and The President's declaration to make sure this didn't and couldn't happen.

BINGO!

Sounds like capitalism to me. You hate capitalism it appears. But then, so many here do.

LOOK at who owns over 70% of 3M stock.

Large insitutional investing organizations who don't give a FIG about the average American life

And yes the REAL PROBLEM is BOTH 3Ms management AND the greedy, corruot Anti -American peces of sh*t who run those medical distrubutors.

How do you guys feel about the US being the worlds largest EXPORTER of oil?

I mean, shouldn't it all stay here?

That....

You are a dumb ass.

This was not capitalism, it was greed.

Cowboys had that figured out 150 years ago while riding drag on trail drives.




Or robbing trains...

My buddy, who works for 3M and I began this talk last night. This morning he sends me this:

Him: My take on 3M statement this morning: Basically, 3M is a global company that makes mask here in the US for Canada and Latin America. We have commitments there as well as US. It’s a global pandemic.

Me: I hope that flies with people. I think people believe its a US company first and foremost. Not that its right but that could be the perception.

Him:No doubt. But with over 50% + of our medical stuff shipped in from China, we better hope China doesn't take that approach.

Capitalism is just another thing you know nothing about. Those who hate it are lieberal demoncraps or the morbidly stupid.

I love it. Whyt do you hate it? You prefer a regulated market, obviously. That's socialism. Hate to tell ya that.

Exactly.

Our side is capitalism, right? Well my side is. Your side appears to be government regulated socialism but that's not very American of you. I do like the way you steal patriotic images and apply them to your socialistic values. It is not fooling anyone however.

I'll type slowly so you understand a bit better. (Though I doubt it..)

Sometimes a company has to do what's right.

3-M is an American corporation.

Pick your battles. Serve your own first.

Then if there's left overs, send them abroad.


I quit wondering if you are that stupid awhile back. I'm convinced.

There are no hard and fast rules and clearly the current situation IS an exception to unfettered capitalism. The US Government was sending royalties to Mauser for the 98 design when we started building the 1903 Springfield. Those royalties stopped in 1917 when we entered the war. The Brits did not send two completed battleships to Argentina and Brazil for the same reasons.Just like now it makes perfect sense to me for the same government to dictate to 3M where to SELL (notice I did not day "confiscate") masks and right now it should be here..Simple really..

The problem with Capitalism in this case as I see it is we won't learn hard lessons from this.

Will Capitalism allow us to make the unpopular but best interest decisions to have us prepared for the next major crisis?

Like mandating that a company such as 3M do not source from China or Africa for these types of medical supplies?

Will the US subsidize 3M to protect our interest in the event we have another 100 year pandemic in 5 years?

Are we sending masks to countries we are war with? I think not.

I like how you guys enjoy "selective" capitalism - when it suits you.

Hypocrisy RULES!

Maybe we should call that Hypocritic Capitalism to make you guys BELIEVE you are capitalists.

Oh, Leroy.


Turn off Oprah for a minute.

If ole beans isn’t smart enough to see the difference between now and regular times he must be a liberal. It’s not just him either. Some others here are also to dumb to see the difference and the reason for no travel and such. Buy a brain folks. Ed k

It is relevant. The Brits weren't at war with Brazil or a Argentina either. It's called doing what governments are SUPPOSED to do, project, protect and defend the national interest, just like it directed US manufacturers to build guns instead of farm equipment, etc. and this IS a war of sorts...

Put a cork in it cockbreath

Leroy is worried that there wont be enough money for her abortions.

Legit question. Sorry you disapprove.

You would know hypocrisy... Dumbass.


Guess who signed THIS executive Order?

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Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:

(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;

(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;

(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;

(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;

(5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and

(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.

(b) The Secretary of each agency delegated authority under subsection (a) of this section (resource departments) shall plan for and issue regulations to prioritize and allocate resources and establish standards and procedures by which the authority shall be used to promote the national defense, under both emergency and non-emergency conditions.

******************************************************

That's your little butt buddy Obama's order...

A VERY legit question and the answer is of course NO....until OUR demands exceed the export capability and especially during a national emergency like we are in now. if it's costing American lives then things need to be adjusted accordingly. Same for the masks and 3M

this topic was discussed on FOX earlier and apparently 3M manufactures a bunch of the masks in China and China was not allowing them to be exported to the US, under any circumstance.

Only after our domestic consumption requirements are satisfied then we can begin to export. We have a pretty good idea of what we need on a monthly, weekly and daily basis, too.

......that works real well in countries like China.

Switched sockpuppets already?

Paul, it was also noted in that Tucker Carlson interviews that 3M executives admitted they were aware their distributors were prioritizing foreign cash buyers and did not take steps to modify their behavior for doing so.

Well, our liebs on the Fire say it was OK for Hillary to make $150 million selling USA uranium away.

They were selling to the highest foreign bidder, jacking up prices. What do they call that?

Classic liberal dysfunctional malady.

Fingers and mouth move before oxygen has been delivered to the brain.

Price gouging is what many call it, I prefer the word treason! Yes I know that is an over used word, but if the shoe fits!

Another nuance of globalization is that many "American" companies are now led by "non-Americans", or, by people who at minimum who have a strong vested interest in other countries / cultures.

As I posted last month, Americans are the only country / culture that try to adhere to the sense of fair play and treating others equally. Every other country / tribe / clan in the world is in "me first" mode. "What ever is good for me, my clan, my tribe, takes precedence over the needs of any other country / tribe / culture..."

When the senior positions at these American companies are filled with non-Americans, it is not surprising to have situations like the one at 3M where desparately needed resources are channeled to non-American interests. I don't know that this is the specific case at 3M. But would not be surprised if someone peeled a few layers and found something similar in play.

Americans as a whole need to wake up, smell the roses, and realize that no one else is looking out for the U.S. of A., except us... And then act accordingly...

Roger. Thank you.

You dont like price gouging screwing you, but you do like it screwing the US.

Now, try to figure out why you're a POS anti American traitor.

True capitalists are just that. And I'm one of them. Capitalists when convenient are really just socialists. That's you. It is you that is the traitor.

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Hank

3M has always had friends in high places and they're one of the companies that helped convince the FCC to break up the Bell System. The break up wasn't because ATT was a monopoly but because companies like 3m wanted a piece of the pie.

I worked for ATT for 30 years (retired 1991) and the last job I had before I retired was in the outside plant construction department. One of my responsibilities was to order all the material for each project. We used mostly ATT equipment because of the high quality and longevity of everything they made. About 5 years after the Bell System was broken up we got an edict from top management to start using 3M equipment instead of ATT (if 3m made it). Most of the 3M equipment made was cheap junk made of thin sheet metal assembled with sheet metal screws and only slightly cheaper than ATT. The ATT equipment was mad of heavy gauge sheet metal that was welded. I started getting complaints from the construction and maintenance dept. about 3M's products.

We had big material distribution facility in Dallas that had most of what we needed. I ordered a big piece of equipment from Dallas and specified ATT but when it showed up it was 3M's version of this equipment I called the manager in Dallas and he told that even though the ATT equipment was listed as being available they didn't have any in stock and weren't allowed to order any ATT equipment. I found out that I could order this equipment straight from the ATT factory so I did. The construction people were real happy with it but somebody told the big boss that I had ordered direct from ATT and he almost fired me.

So if the government wants something you have, we’re ok with their forcing you to sell it to them at below market rate?

Oh.

Is that what happened?

I didn't think so.

But in an age where large corporations can cancel entire product lines because the American flag on tennis shoes is thought to be "racist" and offensive by a company spokesman that started the whole "Kneel during the Natl Anthem movement"...

It's not surprising some companies don't put America First.

Capitalism that can switch to socialism on demand? Interesting.

OP’s cut and paste said foreigners were high bidder. If your not high bidder then your aren’t offering market rate. I’d like to think that If I was 3M I’d have kept them here, but I don’t think that the government should be allowed to take anything without paying the going rate

I sure didn't see where they were forced to sell anything to anybody either.


Why are we even having this argument?

I'm sure our own folks here at home would have matched any price being offered for critically needed medical supplies.

Or maybe 3M shouldn't have only been interested in taking the high bid in a crisis?

Here's what needs to happen. Behind closed doors, Mike Roman is made "untouchable". Remove him from any/all corporate and non-profit boards upon which he sits. Private and exclusive clubs quietly non-renew his memberships. Golf clubs, ski resorts, etc ,etc, etc. Put him on the "No-Fly" list.

If he wants to prioritize Latin America, he can go run the business unit of some company down there, but, he cannot be allowed to run the premier division of a US based company.

He needs to be treated like Winthorpe at the Tennis Club from Trading Places.

It has been pointed out the pulp they make the masks comes from Canada.

The trouble with full market value is that some people have enough money to control a product worldwide. Should they determine fair market value? Should the government charge fair market value for the vaccination for covid 19? Who sets that price? Use your heads folks. Ed k

To take your point further, some country comes in, outbids all of the food we eat, it’s ok with you that it all gets overseas? There’s no differentiation between most things and some core truly important things in your eyes?

They are in business to sell!!
Why is this a surprise>??

That's a very good point.

I'd be in favor of revoking their US citizenship. They've been raping us and selling us down the river for years so f.uck 'em. They don't deserve to be citizens of this country anymore.

“we have produced millions of respirators and now we have arranged to import more masks from China. We have an agreement to allow us to export ten million additional masks a month out of China”…



Link

Does anyone realize the specialized fine fiber that makes the masks N-95 is made in Canada, one of the countries you are talking about stopping the export to.

Nobody in the US is going to deny Canada a single mask/respirator.

I wish Maria would’ve made Mr. Roman explain the situation FL had.

Yeah, well...I dunno...trudeau comes to mind.



But then, I am not a Yank.

Did you see the executive of 3M spew that humanitarian horse [bleep]? Time to boycott 3M.

All that needs to be done is for Trump to tell the American folks the truth and they will take care of 3M.

When I buy stuff with my stimulus check I will research the company, and see where it's products are manufactured.

It is just fascinating how fast people here will throw every Constitutional right and principle out the window in a blink of an eye.

Yeah, especially when they want DACA 28 year old central American aliens going to school with our HS kids.

That is rich coming from a lefty, constitutional pharisee.

Hes pissed he got no cheap central American blow jobs.

OH...that was a nice turn of phrase.

I shall steal that.

So if the government wants something you have, we’re OK with their forcing you to sell it to them at below market rate?

yea........they called it the draft..............If my uncle was asked to sell his butt to the US to fight in Vietnam...........then yes.......call it a draft of 3M

It took you long enough Neal, but you got there in the end.


Basically if the Government wants it you will either capitulate or they will shoot your arse...wax lyrical about it all you like, that is what it boils down to.


And to be frank, in this case I would be irritated if some clowns took much needed resources away when they are needed at home.

Coronavirus: US accused of ‘piracy’ over mask ‘confiscation’

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52161995

The US has been accused of redirecting 200,000 Germany-bound masks for its own use, in a move condemned as "modern piracy".

The local government in Berlin said the shipment of US-made masks was "confiscated" in Bangkok.

The FFP2 masks, which were ordered by Berlin's police force, did not reach their destination, it said.

Andreas Geisel, Berlin's interior minister, said the masks were presumably diverted to the US.

The US company that makes the masks, 3M, has been prohibited from exporting its medical products to other countries under a Korean-War-era law invoked by President Donald Trump.

On Friday, Mr Trump said he was using the Defence Production Act to demand that US firms provide more medical supplies to meet domestic demand.

"We need these items immediately for domestic use. We have to have them," Mr Trump said at the daily Coronavirus Task Force briefing at the White House.

President Trump said medical supplies being diverted from abroad were needed urgently in the US
He said US authorities had taken custody of nearly 200,000 N95 respirators, 130,000 surgical masks and 600,000 gloves. He did not say where they were taken into US hands.

Mr Geisel said the diversion of masks from Berlin amounted to an "act of modern piracy", urging the Trump administration to adhere to international trading rules.

"This is not how you deal with transatlantic partners," the minister said. "Even in times of global crisis, there should be no wild-west methods."

A 'treasure hunt' for masks
Mr Geisel's comments echo the sentiments of other European officials, who have complained about the buying and diversion practices of the US.

In France, for example, regional leaders say they are struggling to secure medical supplies as American buyers outbid them.

The president of the Île-de-France region, Valérie Pécresse, compared the scramble for masks to a "treasure hunt".

3M has been ordered to stop exporting US-made N95 respirator masks
"I found a stock of masks that was available and Americans - I'm not talking about the American government - but Americans, outbid us," Ms Pécresse said. "They offered three times the price and they proposed to pay up-front."

As the coronavirus pandemic worsens, demand for crucial medical supplies, such as masks and respirators, has surged worldwide.

It has been suggested that if they are blocking exports to Canada, maybe Canada should stop the export of the specialized pulp that is used in the making of the N-95 masks, with the just-in-time production that would bring production to a stop. I'm sure a substitute be found after only a couple of weeks. I think 3M is making 16 million a shift, they are working 24/7.. Of course Canadians are too nice to do that sort of thing.

No, I do not think that would be very helpful at all.

He wants to use 3M’s, now excess Chinese production, to fulfill US contract obligations. These are an inferior product. He said so himself. This is at least part of what he’s angling toward. Why wouldn’t he use his excess Chinese production to meet export market demand—to supplant the US produced product he can no longer ship out of the US. I’m guessing it’s because all those customers want the superior quality US produced product.

I found it ironic that two weeks ago, when media outlets were celebrating 3M, their commercial breaks featured ads for attorneys seeking to represent people who wore 3M’s substandard hearing protection while serving in the military— “ knowingly sold the dual-ended Combat Arms Earplugs, Version 2 (CAEv2) to the United States military without disclosing defects that hampered the effectiveness of the hearing protection device.”

We agree to live with a mixture of communism/capitalism.............both extremes are bad........from the evil communist........that have killed million..................to the other end, where you have a nutjob like this, that wants to live in a road warrior environment where everyone is their own government. This is a strict libertarian who refuses to buy a fishing license because he does not answer to the state.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuy_2Cq8HAA&t=57s

And this libertarian says the government can not test him for Corona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=976&v=RltY-u0AnE4&feature=emb_title

To me a nation is akin to a union in that either is only as good as it's members.