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As some of you know, my Mom has been dealing with cancer and didn't want to go through radiation but eventually did. She finished up not long ago and has a mouth and tongue full of sores and an extreme sore throat. The only thing she can eat is Cream of Wheat and drink protein drinks and is losing weight she can't afford to lose.

Due to her weak immune system, I have chastised my niece and sisters for going there to visit because of this virus to the point they have stopped.

Well, now my Mom is falling into a pretty deep state of depression from the hunger, pain and loneliness so I took the day off and am going to go there, make and blend her up a nutritional hotdish (casserole) that she can hopefully eat.

I'm also going to bring them a box of about 30 DVD movies and a TV that has a DVD player in it to watch upstairs where they can see sunlight instead of the TV room in the basement.

I will sanitize everything I touch and wear a mask and gloves and pray that I have not been exposed since I'm still working everyday.

Wish us luck!
Hoping for the best, I'll be praying for you.
You're a good son.
Good luck and prayers for your Mom, you and your family.
praying for a positive outcome,I havent seen my Mom in over a month now,we talk about every day though..
Sorry to hear about this Rooster. You are very thoughtful, and as was mentioned, are a good son. Bless you.
I think it depends on her current condition. Is she now in remission or is she "declining"? I went through this with both my Mom and aunt in the last two years. If she's in remission and has a good prognosis, I'd say it's okay for you to visit as long as you take precautions. If she's declining, I'd let anyone visit her. In the long run, it's not going to make a difference and I can't think of anything worse than passing away without being able to say goodbye to all your loved ones.
GOD bless...hoping for the best outcome
You have to respect their wishes. Sounds like she needs you more than ever.


Hurt, sick, alone and afraid aint no kinda way.



I actually asked my folks what they wanted us to do.



Stay away or come over for coffee with the kids and such.


They said they would rather die happy with family than alone and quarantined.


Hope she gets better soon Rooster.
See if her doctor will prescribe viscous lidocaine. It will help numb her mouth so she could maybe get something down it will affect her tastebuds but maybe it could help. Best of luck to you and your mom.
Good luck, hope all involved stay healthy and get well soon to Mom.
Best wishes for her recovery. Hasbeen
Good luck, hope she gets better!
We're going through something very similar here. It's cancer related also with my wife. We are isolated at my daughter's house. She's a few weeks from being a nurse practitioner and taking every precaution. It's hard on the rest of the family (and all of us) but everyone understands the situation thankfully. God Bless, hope there's a bright light at the end in sight..
Originally Posted by UPhiker
I think it depends on her current condition. Is she now in remission or is she "declining"? I went through this with both my Mom and aunt in the last two years. If she's in remission and has a good prognosis, I'd say it's okay for you to visit as long as you take precautions. If she's declining, I'd let anyone visit her. In the long run, it's not going to make a difference and I can't think of anything worse than passing away without being able to say goodbye to all your loved ones.


I guess you could call it remission? The surgeon thinks he got it all when he took out her jaw bone and replaced it with leg bone but as he said, it could be in nerve endings and tissues that they can't read with today's technology. So, thus the reason for intensive radiation.

Thanks everyone for the thoughts and prayers.

I just want chit to go back to normal.
Steam some Broccoli and other greens high in vitamins, and some meat, so she can get the nutrients and vitamins needed to strengthen her immune system. No carbs at all. Carbs will partially block the nutrients from being absorbed through her intestines. Carbs have zero nutritional value, and just spike your insulin.

Steaming will allow all of the nutrients and vitamins to remain in the vegetables, instead of being thrown out with the water when boiled.

Good luck.
Originally Posted by smarquez
See if her doctor will prescribe viscous lidocaine. It will help numb her mouth so she could maybe get something down it will affect her tastebuds but maybe it could help. Best of luck to you and your mom.


They did give her something but not sure what it is. It doesn't seem to be working. I'll write this down and check today. Thanks!
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Steam some Broccoli and other greens high in vitamins, and some meat, so she can get the nutrients and vitamins needed to strengthen her immune system. No carbs at all. Carbs will partially block the nutrients from being absorbed through her intestines. Carbs have zero nutritional value, and just spike your insulin.

Steaming will allow all of the nutrients and vitamins to remain in the vegetables, instead of being thrown out with the water when boiled.

Good luck.



Thanks. I would have to run everything through a blender or food processor for her to get it down at this point. What kind of liquid should I use with vegetables?
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
You have to respect their wishes. Sounds like she needs you more than ever.


Hurt, sick, alone and afraid aint no kinda way.



I actually asked my folks what they wanted us to do.



Stay away or come over for coffee with the kids and such.


They said they would rather die happy with family than alone and quarantined.


Hope she gets better soon Rooster.


Thanks for that, Jim. Truly.
Originally Posted by Rooster7
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Steam some Broccoli and other greens high in vitamins, and some meat, so she can get the nutrients and vitamins needed to strengthen her immune system. No carbs at all. Carbs will partially block the nutrients from being absorbed through her intestines. Carbs have zero nutritional value, and just spike your insulin.

Steaming will allow all of the nutrients and vitamins to remain in the vegetables, instead of being thrown out with the water when boiled.

Good luck.



Thanks. I would have to run everything through a blender or food processor for her to get it down at this point. What kind of liquid should I use with vegetables?

Steam everything, and then grind it all up into a smoothie, through your food processor, and let her drink it.

If you can't steam it, pour the water you cook the vegetables in, into the food processor, so she can get all of the nutrients, and grind it all up into a smoothie.

If she can drink all of that, she will be getting the best nutrients you can provide....good natural food, instead of the crap they feed them.
Originally Posted by ST50
We're going through something very similar here. It's cancer related also with my wife. We are isolated at my daughter's house. She's a few weeks from being a nurse practitioner and taking every precaution. It's hard on the rest of the family (and all of us) but everyone understands the situation thankfully. God Bless, hope there's a bright light at the end in sight..


I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you guys have a bright light also!
Broccoli, brussel sprouts, kale, spinach. Those are your greens high in nutrients.

Meat with fat on it. You burn the fat to get your energy, not carbs. Animal fat is good for you. The healthcare system preaches animal fat is bad. It’s a lie. Carbs in the diet make people overweight, and bring on diseases, so they can milk you for life $$$$$ from “treating” you.
May God give your mom and entire family His peace and healing. I am truly sorry your mom is suffering. Truly sorry.
Rooster ,
Howdy .

Prayers for your Mom and all the best to you and family .

Tough decisions for sure !
Sure hate to hear that you guys are going through all this.

Prayers uplifted!
Fugging chinese need ta pay a hard price for this planet wide B.S.

Cheer up your mom man!!!!!
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
You're a good son.


Yep you’re a good man prayers sent!
Originally Posted by Rooster7
As some of you know, my Mom has been dealing with cancer and didn't want to go through radiation but eventually did. She finished up not long ago and has a mouth and tongue full of sores and an extreme sore throat. The only thing she can eat is Cream of Wheat and drink protein drinks and is losing weight she can't afford to lose.

Due to her weak immune system, I have chastised my niece and sisters for going there to visit because of this virus to the point they have stopped.

Well, now my Mom is falling into a pretty deep state of depression from the hunger, pain and loneliness so I took the day off and am going to go there, make and blend her up a nutritional hotdish (casserole) that she can hopefully eat.

I'm also going to bring them a box of about 30 DVD movies and a TV that has a DVD player in it to watch upstairs where they can see sunlight instead of the TV room in the basement.

I will sanitize everything I touch and wear a mask and gloves and pray that I have not been exposed since I'm still working everyday.

Wish us luck!


I've been through the radiation stuff in the face before. Tell her that the discomfort in her mouth will clear up very soon after the radiation treatments cease and her taste will return to normal.

I know your intent is good. But right now her taste buds are so out of whack that anything with any type of flavor is going to cause a very uncomfortable metallic sensation in her mouth. That's as close as I can come to describing it.

I lost about 30 pounds when I went through it. Not because I didn't have an appetite,..I was hungry as hell. It was just that most foods caused such an unpleasant sensation in my mouth that I refused to eat them.

I found that cold, green peas eaten straight from the can was tolerable,...as were vienna sausages and cold, unseasoned rice. I would also eat a half of a large, cold watermelon every day because it soothed the inside of my mouth. I know watermelons are out of season right now. I don't know if you could find one anywhere. But you might shop around.Vanilla milk shakes are also tolerable and will help to keep her weight on her until food tastes good again.

Anyway, tell her that it will all pass sooner than she thinks.
Rooster7,

You are a good man. I thank you and don't even know either of you.
May our Lord Bless all, and give the strength to get you past it.
Prayers & thoughts of a happy outcome, from north of the border, Rooster !
Do forget the bottom of your shoes and anything that touches a floor. I wear rubber boots and spray the soles before getting in the truck with Isopropyl after being in public. You could also use a bleach solution, but would have to be careful not to get it on your clothes.

I’m so sorry to hear about Mom. I wish I knew how to make it better. The sores sound awful. Can she eat ice cream? Maybe some rich bone broth. Would salty soft fried bacon be soothing? It sounds terrible.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Rooster7
As some of you know, my Mom has been dealing with cancer and didn't want to go through radiation but eventually did. She finished up not long ago and has a mouth and tongue full of sores and an extreme sore throat. The only thing she can eat is Cream of Wheat and drink protein drinks and is losing weight she can't afford to lose.

Due to her weak immune system, I have chastised my niece and sisters for going there to visit because of this virus to the point they have stopped.

Well, now my Mom is falling into a pretty deep state of depression from the hunger, pain and loneliness so I took the day off and am going to go there, make and blend her up a nutritional hotdish (casserole) that she can hopefully eat.

I'm also going to bring them a box of about 30 DVD movies and a TV that has a DVD player in it to watch upstairs where they can see sunlight instead of the TV room in the basement.

I will sanitize everything I touch and wear a mask and gloves and pray that I have not been exposed since I'm still working everyday.

Wish us luck!


I've been through the radiation stuff in the face before. Tell her that the discomfort in her mouth will clear up very soon after the radiation treatments cease and her taste will return to normal.

I know your intent is good. But right now her taste buds are so out of whack that anything with any type of flavor is going to cause a very uncomfortable metallic sensation in her mouth. That's as close as I can come to describing it.

I lost about 30 pounds when I went through it. Not because I didn't have an appetite,..I was hungry as hell. It was just that most foods caused such an unpleasant sensation in my mouth that I refused to eat them.

I found that cold, green peas eaten straight from the can was tolerable,...as were vienna sausages and cold, unseasoned rice. I would also eat a half of a large, cold watermelon every day because it soothed the inside of my mouth. I know watermelons are out of season right now. I don't know if you could find one anywhere. But you might shop around.Vanilla milk shakes are also tolerable and will help to keep her weight on her until food tastes good again.

Anyway, tell her that it will all pass sooner than she thinks.


Thank you so much, Bristoe.

I will tell my parents about that. My Dad is going through this crap too. Dealing with her impatience, driving her 40 miles each way to appointments, her talk of not wanting to live anymore etc. etc.

It just all around sucks!

But HEY at least we got the Kung Flu floating around!


Thank all of you again for the kind thoughts and prayers. They are truly appreciated.
I saw a triwall of watermelons at Sams club last week. This was in Michigan, so maybe you have them up there too.
What about the ensure drinks or drinks like that? Also those premade smoothies like the naked brand come to mind?
Those are tough choices but sounds like you are making the best of it. I am thankful that we didn't have this going on when my mom had pancreatic cancer.
Originally Posted by kingston
Do forget the bottom of your shoes and anything that touches a floor. I wear rubber boots and spray the soles before getting in the truck with Isopropyl after being in public. You could also use a bleach solution, but would have to be careful not to get it on your clothes.

I’m so sorry to hear about Mom. I wish I knew how to make it better. The sores sound awful. Can she eat ice cream? Maybe some rich bone broth. Would salty soft fried bacon be soothing? It sounds terrible.




It's awful, B. I just wish it would heal up and go away.

First, she fought with her leg where they took the bone out. They took skin from her hip and put over that and that wasn't healing so they sent her to a "wound" doctor and within days that started getting better. I was like "WTF didn't you do this a long time ago???"

Now she's dealing with the side effects of radiation which are worse then the cancer itself and wishes she would have never done it.

Anyway, I'm gonna head to their house now because she said she would rather have what I'm planning to make/blend for supper.

Take care everybody and stay safe!

Jim
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
You're a good son.



+1

God will look over her, and you.
Good luck. Just returned back from WI taking care of my 84 year old mom. They sure are tough but stubborn. I used ensure blended with some berries to help keep on weight.


Originally Posted by Rooster7
As some of you know, my Mom has been dealing with cancer and didn't want to go through radiation but eventually did. She finished up not long ago and has a mouth and tongue full of sores and an extreme sore throat. The only thing she can eat is Cream of Wheat and drink protein drinks and is losing weight she can't afford to lose.

Due to her weak immune system, I have chastised my niece and sisters for going there to visit because of this virus to the point they have stopped.

Well, now my Mom is falling into a pretty deep state of depression from the hunger, pain and loneliness so I took the day off and am going to go there, make and blend her up a nutritional hotdish (casserole) that she can hopefully eat.

I'm also going to bring them a box of about 30 DVD movies and a TV that has a DVD player in it to watch upstairs where they can see sunlight instead of the TV room in the basement.

I will sanitize everything I touch and wear a mask and gloves and pray that I have not been exposed since I'm still working everyday.

Wish us luck!
These are tough times; you seem to be doing about all that is reasonably possible.

Best wishes for all of you, especially your mother.

MM
Rooster:
I feel for your Mom and family. I just finished 25 days of radiation so I know somewhat Mom is going through although my reaction is totally different. They tell me it will get better soon but until it does it sucks.
Give Mom a hug. Wish I could give mine one but she has been gone 26 years now. Praying for healing for all of you.
As the bible says: this too shall pass.....just wish it would hurry up.
Also, tell her that I went through it 20 years ago and I'm still here.
Sending prayers your way, hope your mom gets through this rough time quickly. I take care of my 92 yo mom. She is a cancer survivor. One day at a time. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
Originally Posted by colorado bob
Hoping for the best, I'll be praying for you.
Ditto.... smile
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Steam some Broccoli and other greens high in vitamins, and some meat, so she can get the nutrients and vitamins needed to strengthen her immune system. No carbs at all. Carbs will partially block the nutrients from being absorbed through her intestines. Carbs have zero nutritional value, and just spike your insulin.

Steaming will allow all of the nutrients and vitamins to remain in the vegetables, instead of being thrown out with the water when boiled.

Good luck.
Elkslayer, are you an MD? Just asking.
ElkSlayer91 did not go to medical school...
Originally Posted by kingston
ElkSlayer91 did not go to medical school...
I have asked several times, nicely, if he is a medical professional but thus far, no response that I've seen. He keeps relating medical advice.
God bless your mom... strength and healing amen....

Dad is 89 and his wife has cancer bad, we had already been limiting exposure not wanting to pass on the flu or something to give her or him pneumonia and death. Christmas was for them was individuals going over in small groups.

I now look at people like guns, empty or not treat them as loaded, as well as myself, control my muzzle and pose no threat as if loaded.

Kent
You try ice cream or milkshakes? There is a medicine that greatly increases appetite sorta like marijuana and could help her eat.

Check out: Remeron, mirtazipine Generic name
Rooster...sorry about that. Prayers for your mom. My mother is 86 years old and I know this will come someday for me and dread the thought. Hope you have an enjoyable time with your mother.
Jim, you're doing the right thing. I bet mom is proud she brought up such a good son.

My mom is 86, cancer survivor, and alone after dad died last August. She's from up around your parts in Northern MN. She has kidney issues and some other things going on. If she caught this thing, well, it wouldn't be good. She's been locked down going on 27 days. Groceries come in via a shopper. Literally no one has come through the door in all that time. I can see it's taking a toll mentally. I try to get over there every day. If we have to talk through the front window, so be it. Usually we put a couple lawn chairs 15 feet or so apart and talk in the yard. I make sure I call her every day; my sister does too. My other brother only calls when he wants something. Talking to and seeing people is the best thing for her...I bet you mom too!

Re: the Lidocaine rinse. I had the same thing last year for some intense throat pain with strep/cough. Some of that stuff mixed with water numbed the area and the pain. It also has it's downside in that it numbs your throat and swallowing or knowing when to swallow, which was problematic. I only used it once. It's Rx, so please ask a doc first.

The hotdish made me smile. Only in MN and ND. Hope it had tator-tots in it! Good luck friend.

cf
Originally Posted by krp
I now look at people like guns, empty or not treat them as loaded, as well as myself, control my muzzle and pose no threat as if loaded.

Kent


Best advice I've heard since this thing started. Everyone on the planet should hear it.
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
Originally Posted by krp
I now look at people like guns, empty or not treat them as loaded, as well as myself, control my muzzle and pose no threat as if loaded.

Kent


Best advice I've heard since this thing started. Everyone on the planet should hear it.


#1

That is probably the most profound thing I've ever read.
Originally Posted by kingston
I saw a triwall of watermelons at Sams club last week. This was in Michigan, so maybe you have them up there too.


Michigan???

I thought you were on the east coast.
Originally Posted by New_2_99s
Prayers & thoughts of a happy outcome, from north of the border, Rooster !



Paul, I truly appreciate that.
Originally Posted by Rooster7
As some of you know, my Mom has been dealing with cancer and didn't want to go through radiation but eventually did. She finished up not long ago and has a mouth and tongue full of sores and an extreme sore throat. The only thing she can eat is Cream of Wheat and drink protein drinks and is losing weight she can't afford to lose.

Due to her weak immune system, I have chastised my niece and sisters for going there to visit because of this virus to the point they have stopped.

Well, now my Mom is falling into a pretty deep state of depression from the hunger, pain and loneliness so I took the day off and am going to go there, make and blend her up a nutritional hotdish (casserole) that she can hopefully eat.

I'm also going to bring them a box of about 30 DVD movies and a TV that has a DVD player in it to watch upstairs where they can see sunlight instead of the TV room in the basement.

I will sanitize everything I touch and wear a mask and gloves and pray that I have not been exposed since I'm still working everyday.

Wish us luck!



I am truly sorry old mate...I have absolutely nothing that could help.

All the best...and give your mum a hug from me.
Originally Posted by JSTUART

All the best...and give your mum a hug from me.


Man, that's what sucks the most. When I was getting up to leave, she got up to give me a hug and I said "no Mom, we can't right now"
Originally Posted by Rooster7
Originally Posted by JSTUART

All the best...and give your mum a hug from me.


Man, that's what sucks the most. When I was getting up to leave, she got up to give me a hug and I said "no Mom, we can't right now"



But she knows...and that is worth everything.
Originally Posted by Rooster7
Originally Posted by kingston
I saw a triwall of watermelons at Sams club last week. This was in Michigan, so maybe you have them up there too.


Michigan???

I thought you were on the east coast.


I bought a farm in Michigan and am making the move from the coast.
this sounds like a case where a stomach feeding tube would help her keep her strength up while taking treatments. I have 2 friends that had them put in and both never lost any weight while taking treatments. I wish you luck.
Rooster7:
Sending you a pm.

I wish her and your family luck. I will say a rosary for her and keep you guys in my daily prayers. -tnscouter
During my brothers cancer and chemo he had mouth and throat sores. He only at Mom's bannana pudding. He gained weight!

Following my transplant I had lost 40 pounds of muscle, down to 163. Could see my ribs. Docs had me drinking a "Boost" drink twice a day. Smooth choclate drink packed with protein and calories. I still have them for breakfast once in a while.
Let her enjoy family. A friends daughter did this and it is a slow painful journey.
Originally Posted by Quak
GOD bless...hoping for the best outcome



This x 2!
Hoping you can bring her a bit of sunshine.
Good on you.
I'll just second all the blessings and kudos that have already been said.. its a tough thing to deal with...

Prayers for her to be comfortable thru this all.. and prayers that she can recover...
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Rooster7
Originally Posted by kingston
I saw a triwall of watermelons at Sams club last week. This was in Michigan, so maybe you have them up there too.


Michigan???

I thought you were on the east coast.


I bought a farm in Michigan and am making the move from the coast.




Congrats!
Talked to Dad a little while ago and he said the visit and the hotdish made Mom feel a lot better. smile
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