..and sugar? I'm curious. I've been checking for 6 weeks at the grocery stores here and never even 1 package on the shelves. I know of no one baking bread or making cakes. With Tyson's plant down, there's a shortage of chicken to fry. Restaurants have been closed. So where is all the flour going????
I don't know anybody domestic enough to bake a cake from scratch. Cakes and cookies come from box mixes around here. 5 lbs of sugar and flour last us a year.
We buy flour, we make bread in a bread machine. Even hauled it to the beach last month.
We don’t ever keep more than one of those 4lbs bags. Cause the chit start getting beetles and moths eventually after a few months. We keep it in the freezer.
Im all the time flopping pork loin in it and skillet frying them.
Mother in law makes homemade biscuits every couple of days.
I'm also not sure where all the WHAM biscuits have gone. Guess they quit slaughtering those too. Shelves full of cresent rolls though. Guess I need to learn to make homemade cat heads.
We buy flour, we make bread in a bread machine. Even hauled it to the beach last month.
We don’t ever keep more than one of those 4lbs bags. Cause the chit start getting beetles and moths eventually after a few months. We keep it in the freezer.
Im all the time flopping pork loin in it and skillet frying them.
Mother in law makes homemade biscuits every couple of days.
Our stores have both. We probably go through a pound of flour every couple of years. We use stevia instead of sugar. We have a box of it with a million or so packets. My wife can bake old school we just don't eat much of anything baked once the boys left.
Kooks here too, apparently. Have not had store-bought bread nor cake in the house in many years. I buy flour (both whole wheat and unbleached all purpose) in 25# bags, sugar in 5 or 10 depending on per pound price of each. Can’t understand getting those items in the store, but I don’t have an EBT card either.
Went to the regular grocery store today; first time since 03/30. Didn't look for flour, but yeast and baking powder were nowhere to be seen. Some Bisquik and other self-rising stuff was there, but we have that.
The little woman bakes cakes, scones, etc following recipes on YouTube.
BTW, fresh meat like chicken and burger was one of a type to a customer. Stuff like sausage, bacon, scrapple, hot dogs wasn't marked like that. Bought a nice spiral-sliced ham for $.99 a pound, one whole organic fryer, a pack of thighs, and pork chops. Got a lot of deer burger left, so didn't even look at that, but steaks and roasts were missing, unless they were all in the butcher's display.
..and sugar? I'm curious. I've been checking for 6 weeks at the grocery stores here and never even 1 package on the shelves. I know of no one baking bread or making cakes. With Tyson's plant down, there's a shortage of chicken to fry. Restaurants have been closed. So where is all the flour going????
Stores here are very low on flour also.. For years I've been wanting to learn how to make breads.. Tried the 'bread flour' that local stores stock... What crap. Went to a site called "Breadtopia" - and THAT place is a flour-lovers garden of Eden.. Local bread flour - 10% protein.. Breadtopia - up to 14% protein, some are even higher... Makes beautiful loaves..
Plenty of flour and sugar on the shelves in NW MT. I noticed chili beans were getting thin. I haven't been to costco for a while, but a couple of local grocers and a restaurant wholesale place that sells bulk stuff. There has been plenty of everything the last few weeks.
I saw the flour & yeast get wiped out when this all started and have seen both in stock just once about a week ago, last weekend nothing. I don't eat a lot of bread so I just go get a loaf out of the bread aisle and throw it in the freezer. The first week was a little crazy trying to find bread but after that I haven't had any problems buying bread. I have a feeling there are a lot of people hoarding flour and yeast that are going to end up throwing it away.
Since eating has always been one of my favorite things, cooking was going to be a prerequisite for the Mrs. status around here. I suppose the wife is buying that stuff then. Case in point last week we were down to our last two homemade chocolate chip cookies and there was another double batch in the oven that afternoon.
Gee, I don't know, I use maybe 15 pounds a year if I do holiday baking. There's a place in town that makes much better bread than I do and has first call on flour supplies. Iit's called a bakery. Novel idea, stick to what you do well.
Oh hell, I forget the house lady make homemade chicken and dumplings usually a couple times a month too.
Raise us up one more notch on the KOOK scale.
What?
You dont feel like skipping down to the corner shop with your gay little hand basket for a single scone?
Something tells me you are sitting in your single wide in just your Haines whitey tighties. Grape jelly smothered on your chest and you scraping it off with a bagel.. washing it down with some buttermilk, telling your wife aliens kidnapped you..
Oh hell, I forget the house lady make homemade chicken and dumplings usually a couple times a month too.
Raise us up one more notch on the KOOK scale.
What?
You dont feel like skipping down to the corner shop with your gay little hand basket for a single scone?
Something tells me you are sitting in your single wide in just your Haines whitey righties. Grape jelly smothered on your chest and you scraping it off with a bagel.. washing it down with some buttermilk, telling your wife aliens kidnapped you..
We bought 100lbs of flour and rice a couple of months ago, why? The 'kooks' who have the commodity to sell can lock the door for those of us that want it. It's called due diligence to make sure that one is stocked for a disaster.
Since eating has always been one of my favorite things, cooking was going to be a prerequisite for the Mrs. status around here. I suppose the wife is buying that stuff then. Case in point last week we were down to our last two homemade chocolate chip cookies and there was another double batch in the oven that afternoon.
So,
you're the folks I blame for Costco.com being out of the big 4.5lb bags of chocolate chips?
Well, at least you folks are using the baking products. I'm with Paul M up there ^, I figure there's a lot of hoarding and all those little jars of yeast will be up for auction on Fleabay this fall.
We don’t ever keep more than one of those 4lbs bags. Cause the chit start getting beetles and moths eventually after a few months. We keep it in the freezer.
I don't know about the shortage of flour, but I'm just glad we don't have beetles and moths in our freezer.
Wife scored two jars of yeast the other day. Hadn't seen any for a couple of weeks. We're OK though, even without the jarred yeast I have sourdough starter in the fridge and doubled that batch the other day in case there's another KOOK run on yeast. We make almost all our bread products.
Some sourdough pancakes too:
and goodies:
It's a real pain in the azz when folks like us, there's only two of us, can't find a 5lb or 10lb bag of flour on any of the 3-4 grocery stores in our little town. Not even in the "hippie" aisle with the organic gluten free rice and quinoa flours.
Don't those moms know they can still get Wonder bread and Keebler's cookies at the store still?
Well, maybe 12 cases of .22LR and a couple tons of lead in barrels on the patio might not be looked at as hoarding.
But jars of yeast and bags of flour??
Man-Card violation, or good to go?
I use that stuff for mouse trap bait. Other than that..................I have no use for it and have told my wife if we were still in the 50's when men ruled their households, that crap would never cross the threshold of any house I lived in.
But, no problem, not hoarding if your family uses it regularly.
Now, if you purchased a pallet of buckets................yeah............hoarding for sure.
There are a number of them in these books. Some have notes that we're not going to try those again. The simplest seem like they turn out the tastiest anyway.
There's a little book that came with our hand me down breadmaker, but the covers are missing so I can't tell you the name.
kaywoodie can correct my translation, but I think this is proletariat enough. "People's grain bread"
it's one of my all time faves.
Sometimes I just throw stuff together............10 or so years in the baking industry will do that to a fellow. Granted, I'm no longer mixing 500 lbs of flour and the rest, but I know what a good dough looks like.
Most times except in summer, we use the dough setting on the machine and take it out to bake in the oven. I suppose we could use the bread hook on the stand mixer, but we're good lazy Americans with the technology to do our work for us.
The pancakes are "freehand", no recipe. I just add what I want.
Momma makes the cakes and pies. I'll leave that to her.
Grandfather ran a bakery in Burns Oregon during the war. He had the contract for the local army base for baked goods. So he had access to sugar and yeast.
Found out a few years ago that he had a deal with the army brass and local bootleggers to sell the moonshiners sugar and yeast under the army contract. The shiners and officers split the profit on booze.
Meanwhile I'm gonna start hoarding Betty Crocker (the cake mix, not an actual person), maybe Marie Antoinette was right.
The Duncan Hines Fudge Brownie mix is where it's at. Much better than Betty. Cheaper than Betty too. Make it with two eggs instead of three, and add a teaspoon of instant coffee to the mix. Thank me later.
Well, maybe 12 cases of .22LR and a couple tons of lead in barrels on the patio might not be looked at as hoarding.
But jars of yeast and bags of flour??
Man-Card violation, or good to go?
I use that stuff for mouse trap bait. Other than that..................I have no use for it and have told my wife if we were still in the 50's when men ruled their households, that crap would never cross the threshold of any house I lived in.
But, no problem, not hoarding if your family uses it regularly.
Now, if you purchased a pallet of buckets................yeah............hoarding for sure.
We've got 8 big jars of Jif in the cupboard now. We eat pb&j sandwiches or just pb on crrackers for a snack all the time. We also use pb for hiding medicine/pills in for our dogs.
the easiest bread that doesn't require yeast is "lavash bread recipe" , search for that on youtube , let me know if you can't find it.
haven't tried making it.
Ate more than a little when we lived in the Fresno area, almost like little Armenia there. Not much I miss about the place except the Armenian restaurants and delis.
Maybe I'll look that up next time we want some flatbread.
We've tried pitas, but the oven isn't right. Bought a pizza oven for the grill, going to try pitas in that. Then I can make some lamajoune and manesh.
We buy flour, we make bread in a bread machine. Even hauled it to the beach last month.
We don’t ever keep more than one of those 4lbs bags. Cause the chit start getting beetles and moths eventually after a few months. We keep it in the freezer.
Im all the time flopping pork loin in it and skillet frying them.
Mother in law makes homemade biscuits every couple of days.
Guess we’re KOOKS.
Do you use regular flour to make bread in that bread machine? Years ago the family got a bread maker for a gift but it called for special flour so it rarely got used. Was kind of a waste.
..and sugar? I'm curious. I've been checking for 6 weeks at the grocery stores here and never even 1 package on the shelves. I know of no one baking bread or making cakes. With Tyson's plant down, there's a shortage of chicken to fry. Restaurants have been closed. So where is all the flour going????
Now ya went an donnit. Nobody gonna be able ta getit. Yer gonna hava nation wide run goin onit. Crap.
Do you use regular flour to make bread in that bread machine? Years ago the family got a bread maker for a gift but it called for special flour so it rarely got used. Was kind of a waste.
You can use all-purpose flour in bread machines. It works ok but doesn't give as much of a rise to the loaf. Still rises fairly well, and tasty.
We buy flour, we make bread in a bread machine. Even hauled it to the beach last month.
We don’t ever keep more than one of those 4lbs bags. Cause the chit start getting beetles and moths eventually after a few months. We keep it in the freezer.
Im all the time flopping pork loin in it and skillet frying them.
Mother in law makes homemade biscuits every couple of days.
Guess we’re KOOKS.
Do you use regular flour to make bread in that bread machine? Years ago the family got a bread maker for a gift but it called for special flour so it rarely got used. Was kind of a waste.
The "special" flour is not that hard to find. It's usually labeled "bread flour". One can use the All Purpose type (we have) , but it works better if you add some gluten too it.
Unfortunately, even the bread flour has been hard to find at times.
Do you use regular flour to make bread in that bread machine? Years ago the family got a bread maker for a gift but it called for special flour so it rarely got used. Was kind of a waste.
You can use all-purpose flour in bread machines. It works ok but doesn't give as much of a rise to the loaf. Still rises fairly well, and tasty.
Again? Bro, you need to get a tube up your ass pipe to locate that whole roast you ate back in 2009.
🤰🏿😎😬
09 I was in Afghanistan dealing with this.. lol nothing better pissing out your ass for week straight.
LoL... Nothing quite like losing the sleeve of an good under shirt to the hurricane shîts while packing 48 deeks and 6 goose bodies across a flooded corn field in the dark, with wind and rain hammering away.
Prolly doesn’t compare to Afghan and being under small arms fire when blowing ass.
Something about hanging my sexy white ass out in a mud village for a target seems problematic. Grins! 😎
..and sugar? I'm curious. I've been checking for 6 weeks at the grocery stores here and never even 1 package on the shelves. I know of no one baking bread or making cakes. With Tyson's plant down, there's a shortage of chicken to fry. Restaurants have been closed. So where is all the flour going????
Plenty this morning at the Wally World at 92 and Trickum.
I did notice lots of sparse shelves, e.g. paper products, tomato sauce, with product brought as far forward as possible to make it appear as though there was plenty of stock.
Plenty this morning at the Wally World at 92 and Trickum.
I did notice lots of sparse shelves, e.g. paper products, tomato sauce, with product brought as far forward as possible to make it appear as though there was plenty of stock.
That's actually close enough for me to get to. Obviously, we are neighbors of sort!
We buy flour, we make bread in a bread machine. Even hauled it to the beach last month.
We don’t ever keep more than one of those 4lbs bags. Cause the chit start getting beetles and moths eventually after a few months. We keep it in the freezer.
Im all the time flopping pork loin in it and skillet frying them.
Mother in law makes homemade biscuits every couple of days.
Guess we’re KOOKS.
Do you use regular flour to make bread in that bread machine? Years ago the family got a bread maker for a gift but it called for special flour so it rarely got used. Was kind of a waste.
The "special" flour is not that hard to find. It's usually labeled "bread flour". One can use the All Purpose type (we have) , but it works better if you add some gluten too it.
Unfortunately, even the bread flour has been hard to find at times.
"fugginChinese, fugginupeverything"
I used to use bread flour. Now just use AP flour like for all other baking. It works fine. IIRC, bread flour is ground a little finer. Easy to sub.
A few weeks ago, AP flour, whole wheat flour, corn meal, even cake flour! were out of stock. Closer to normal now.
Just asked my wife if she had seen any flour of sugar shortages at the grocery store. She sid about a month or so ago there was a flour shortage, but the shelves are full now. (Oklahoma City)
Just asked my wife if she had seen any flour of sugar shortages at the grocery store. She sid about a month or so ago there was a flour shortage, but the shelves are full now. (Oklahoma City)
Is Shawnee Mills still makin’ their products out there...?
Just asked my wife if she had seen any flour of sugar shortages at the grocery store. She sid about a month or so ago there was a flour shortage, but the shelves are full now. (Oklahoma City)
Is Shawnee Mills still makin’ their products out there...?
Yep. Out Yukon way. The towers are still there. With half the state planted in wheat, it is hard to imagine we would ever have a flour shortage. Plus how are you going to fix chicken fried steak without flour. People would starve to death.
Just asked my wife if she had seen any flour of sugar shortages at the grocery store. She sid about a month or so ago there was a flour shortage, but the shelves are full now. (Oklahoma City)
Is Shawnee Mills still makin’ their products out there...?
Yep. Out Yukon way. The towers are still there. With half the state planted in wheat, it is hard to imagine we would ever have a flour shortage. Plus how are you going to fix chicken fried steak without flour. People would starve to death.
I remember seeing their big grain elevators and storage bins at their mill east of OkC in Shawnee. They’ve been doin’ business for a long time. I always liked their products, especially their Peppered Country Gravy Mix. That stuff is fantastic over chicken fried steak. Or just plain biscuits.
Think I'll make some tortillas this evening and make fish tacos with some red snapper.
Could you teach us how to do that?
I can make the tortillas.....need help with the fish taco part.
just fish in a tortilla grill or fry the fish, i like shredded cabbage some black beans, avocado, and your favorite hot sauce. a little lime juice is good. all kinds of recipes on the net.
there is some on the shelves here in PA but it does appear to be picked over. i went shopping a few weeks ago and there was one bag left. i use a lot of flour making pizza and bread and chicken fried every thing.
When I was in Kuwait back in the 90s we ate at a lot of lebanese restaurants. Fantastic food but the Pita sucked. It was like cardboard. What we started doing was we'd go to Deek Al Roumie restaruant and order take out style, like some kofta kababs and Humas and tabouli and on the way home we'd stop at an Iranian bakery and get a bunch of that bread. OMG wrap a kabab in one of those towel head tortillas with the Kabab dragged through humas before you wrap it. OMG that was so fine!!! Besides, if we took the food home we could eat it and drink home made wine with the kababs.
I'm going in the Hospital in the morning for a colonoscopy and haven't eaten anything solid all day. I was SO HUNGRY, until I saw that. I might not eat again for days!
We buy flour, we make bread in a bread machine. Even hauled it to the beach last month.
We don’t ever keep more than one of those 4lbs bags. Cause the chit start getting beetles and moths eventually after a few months. We keep it in the freezer.
Im all the time flopping pork loin in it and skillet frying them.
Mother in law makes homemade biscuits every couple of days.
Guess we’re KOOKS.
Do you use regular flour to make bread in that bread machine? Years ago the family got a bread maker for a gift but it called for special flour so it rarely got used. Was kind of a waste.
The "special" flour is not that hard to find. It's usually labeled "bread flour". One can use the All Purpose type (we have) , but it works better if you add some gluten too it.
Unfortunately, even the bread flour has been hard to find at times.
"fugginChinese, fugginupeverything"
I used to use bread flour. Now just use AP flour like for all other baking. It works fine. IIRC, bread flour is ground a little finer. Easy to sub.
A few weeks ago, AP flour, whole wheat flour, corn meal, even cake flour! were out of stock. Closer to normal now.
Damn rookie bakers!
Geno - what came out of the Bundt pan?
Also, remember “the people’s car”? Volks vagen!
Don't remember. Something tasty the wife made.
Since she's retired (over a year now) she's gotten the baking habit more than she used to. Has time to watch Cupcake Wars, the Great British Bakeoff, and all sorts of other things on TV to get ideas.
Bread flour is higher in protein (gluten) than AP flour, which is higher than cake flour. AP is a compromise. Unless they've changed things since I worked in that industry (late 80's). Don't try making batches of hamburger buns (500 dozen at a time) with cake flour.............it don't fuggin work well. One place I worked at bought flour by they train car load. Piped from there into our silos. Then to the mixers. Someone along the line screwed up somehow, we got a traincar load of cake flour. I was new, like brand new, and new something was wrong. Foreman said try to run the dough through the machine. What a friggen mess. Eventually, after a whole shift of having the mixers try to add dough conditioners, other flour, etc they eventually decided they had to toss the whole load, empty the silos, and use the next car in line after testing it to make sure it was bread flour.
We buy flour, we make bread in a bread machine. Even hauled it to the beach last month.
We don’t ever keep more than one of those 4lbs bags. Cause the chit start getting beetles and moths eventually after a few months. We keep it in the freezer.
Im all the time flopping pork loin in it and skillet frying them.
Mother in law makes homemade biscuits every couple of days.
Guess we’re KOOKS.
Do you use regular flour to make bread in that bread machine? Years ago the family got a bread maker for a gift but it called for special flour so it rarely got used. Was kind of a waste.
The "special" flour is not that hard to find. It's usually labeled "bread flour". One can use the All Purpose type (we have) , but it works better if you add some gluten too it.
Unfortunately, even the bread flour has been hard to find at times.
"fugginChinese, fugginupeverything"
I used to use bread flour. Now just use AP flour like for all other baking. It works fine. IIRC, bread flour is ground a little finer. Easy to sub.
A few weeks ago, AP flour, whole wheat flour, corn meal, even cake flour! were out of stock. Closer to normal now.
Damn rookie bakers!
Geno - what came out of the Bundt pan?
Also, remember “the people’s car”? Volks vagen!
Don't remember. Something tasty the wife made.
Since she's retired (over a year now) she's gotten the baking habit more than she used to. Has time to watch Cupcake Wars, the Great British Bakeoff, and all sorts of other things on TV to get ideas.
Bread flour is higher in protein (gluten) than AP flour, which is higher than cake flour. AP is a compromise. Unless they've changed things since I worked in that industry (late 80's). Don't try making batches of hamburger buns (500 dozen at a time) with cake flour.............it don't fuggin work well. One place I worked at bought flour by they train car load. Piped from there into our silos. Then to the mixers. Someone along the line screwed up somehow, we got a traincar load of cake flour. I was new, like brand new, and new something was wrong. Foreman said try to run the dough through the machine. What a friggen mess. Eventually, after a whole shift of having the mixers try to add dough conditioners, other flour, etc they eventually decided they had to toss the whole load, empty the silos, and use the next car in line after testing it to make sure it was bread flour.
It pains me to type this, but Travis was right. You are verbose.
We buy flour, we make bread in a bread machine. Even hauled it to the beach last month.
We don’t ever keep more than one of those 4lbs bags. Cause the chit start getting beetles and moths eventually after a few months. We keep it in the freezer.
Im all the time flopping pork loin in it and skillet frying them.
Mother in law makes homemade biscuits every couple of days.
Guess we’re KOOKS.
Do you use regular flour to make bread in that bread machine? Years ago the family got a bread maker for a gift but it called for special flour so it rarely got used. Was kind of a waste.
The "special" flour is not that hard to find. It's usually labeled "bread flour". One can use the All Purpose type (we have) , but it works better if you add some gluten too it.
Unfortunately, even the bread flour has been hard to find at times.
"fugginChinese, fugginupeverything"
I used to use bread flour. Now just use AP flour like for all other baking. It works fine. IIRC, bread flour is ground a little finer. Easy to sub.
A few weeks ago, AP flour, whole wheat flour, corn meal, even cake flour! were out of stock. Closer to normal now.
Damn rookie bakers!
Geno - what came out of the Bundt pan?
Also, remember “the people’s car”? Volks vagen!
Don't remember. Something tasty the wife made.
Since she's retired (over a year now) she's gotten the baking habit more than she used to. Has time to watch Cupcake Wars, the Great British Bakeoff, and all sorts of other things on TV to get ideas.
Bread flour is higher in protein (gluten) than AP flour, which is higher than cake flour. AP is a compromise. Unless they've changed things since I worked in that industry (late 80's). Don't try making batches of hamburger buns (500 dozen at a time) with cake flour.............it don't fuggin work well. One place I worked at bought flour by they train car load. Piped from there into our silos. Then to the mixers. Someone along the line screwed up somehow, we got a traincar load of cake flour. I was new, like brand new, and new something was wrong. Foreman said try to run the dough through the machine. What a friggen mess. Eventually, after a whole shift of having the mixers try to add dough conditioners, other flour, etc they eventually decided they had to toss the whole load, empty the silos, and use the next car in line after testing it to make sure it was bread flour.
It pains me to type this, but Travis was right. You are verbose.
‘Course he don’t use no fancy words!
Just ask your boss what is in that picture!
She might know. I think it came from back in Dec? Might even be one from last year.
Sorry bout the story. I just got to thinking about the different flours and remembered what a pain in the azz it was for a newbie baker trying to deal with that screw up. Be like a new mechanic at the shop filling fuel tanks with gasoline because some Homer truck driver filled the tanks wrong. "Hey boss, what's wrong? I can't get any of these trucks to run right."
Dr Jeff, maybe the workers in the flour making plants arent considered essential workers and they make more money staying at home?
Doc, if that's so, Dems are out to give them plenty of company. Dems in the House want to extented the Fed $600/wk through to January. Imagine everyone on the dole for 9 months. You'd never get 80%+ off the dole.
Dad said that when he was growing up they rarely had all the flour they needed. I asked him where they got it.
He said they raised wheat, when it dried they laid bed sheets on the ground, cut the wheat & laid it on the sheets so as to not loose so many kernels. Then bundled the sheets & loaded them on to a horse drawn wagon.
Then they would haul the wheat to the largest farm in the area as that would be where the guy that owned a threshing machine would park it. The threshing charge would be a portion of the wheat.
Good gosh dad! where did ya get your flour? I'm gettin to that, he said. Then we took our wheat to the miller to be ground into flour. The milling charge would be a portion of our flour. A really good year would be when we had anything left over to bake with for a year.. A great year would be when we had enough flour left to trade for some sugar.
Like so many, after the war he moved to town & had no notions of going back to the farm. He always said he could go back if he had to & could make it. But would just as soon not have to.
I thought, no chit.
New, lard cans with good lids are a great way to store grains & such. The lids can be sealed if need be with wide tape. Or, check out Gamma lids for 5 gallon plastic buckets.
We do a lot of baking, bread, cinnamon rolls, cakes, peach cobblers, our own pankcakes, etc. So we have 3 20 lb sacks of flour on hand plus we have a few buckets of wheat that we can grind. I make sourdough quite often, haven some going right now. One of my hobbies is taking fresh bread or cinnamon rolls to the hospital, sheriff's office, bank, newspaper office, courthouse, grocery store clerks, neighbors, etc. Fun thing to do since they are working folks & I'm retired.
Dr Jeff, maybe the workers in the flour making plants arent considered essential workers and they make more money staying at home?
Doc, if that's so, Dems are out to give them plenty of company. Dems in the House want to extented the Fed $600/wk through to January. Imagine everyone on the dole for 9 months. You'd never get 80%+ off the dole.
Sounds like a plan to get some govt inspired starvation going.
Maybe that dumbassed Texas drug store cowboy had a clue after all.
Of course, govt would step in to help the chosen ones out.
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