He could do some pretty serious time if they get him on everything. Anyone have any knowledge of how they can enforce a condition that he have no firearm before he’s convicted, not to mention he’s charged with misdemeanors?
Many more egregious crimes with far less consequences.
“A 56-year-old Pickford man was arraigned Wednesday morning in Chippewa County’s 91st District Court on 125 wildlife misdemeanor charges, following a months-long investigation by the Michigan Department of Natural Resources Law Enforcement Division.
Kurt Johnston Duncan faces charges that include illegally harvesting 18 wolves over the past 18 months and killing and disposing of three bald eagles. Wolves are protected in Michigan and are on the federal endangered species list. Bald eagles are protected under state law, as well as the federal Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act. Duncan, who today pleaded not guilty to all charges, faces:
Up to 90 days in jail and $1,000 fine for each wolf. Up to 90 days in jail and $1,000 fine for each eagle. Restitution of $1,500 per eagle and $500 per wolf. Up to 90 days in jail and $500 fine each for the other wildlife crimes. Duncan was served four search warrants in March. Other species involved in the charges include deer, turkey, bear and bobcat. DNR law enforcement detectives said that Duncan was using the animals for a variety of reasons, including crafts, selling, or disposing of them, and stated that he was catching the animals because he could and “likes to do it.”
Conservation officers collected evidence to support the charges and identified additional suspects who are expected to be charged in the near future.
“We had a team of conservation officers that worked well together throughout this investigation,” said DNR Law Enforcement Division Chief Gary Hagler. “Investigations like this require a long-term commitment from everyone involved. I want to thank the prosecutors in this case who worked with our officers. We are happy with the outcome and hope this case sets an example to prevent future natural resource crimes.”
The Chippewa County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office is seeking $30,000 in restitution to the state for the illegally taken animals. Duncan’s cash bond is set at $500. Other conditions of Duncan’s bond include having no contact with co-defendants, no possession of a firearm or dangerous weapon, and no engaging in hunting or fishing.”
He could do some pretty serious time if they get him on everything. Anyone have any knowledge of how they can enforce a condition that he have no firearm before he’s convicted, not to mention he’s charged with misdemeanors?
Many more egregious crimes with far less consequences.
“. Duncan’s cash bond is set at $500. Other conditions of Duncan’s bond include having no contact with co-defendants, no possession of a firearm or dangerous weapon, and no engaging in hunting or fishing.”
It appears to be a condition of his bond.
I guess he could have chosen not to agree to the bond, and stayed in the hoosegow?
I think protecting any animal on the verge of extinction is prudent, but I can't fathom why anybody gives a fugk about some guy popping a couple in 2020.
Wish they'd catch the SOB that's been throwing out poison meatballs over by the UP/Wisconsin border. It's killed several dogs along with assorted wildlife. I don't get the wolf hate
Wish they'd catch the SOB that's been throwing out poison meatballs over by the UP/Wisconsin border. It's killed several dogs along with assorted wildlife. I don't get the wolf hate
You got that going on up there too, eh? Seems to be popular with the anti crowd. They don't care nothing about about killing other peoples dogs and anything else that gets in their way.
Wish they'd catch the SOB that's been throwing out poison meatballs over by the UP/Wisconsin border. It's killed several dogs along with assorted wildlife. I don't get the wolf hate
I certainly don't hate wolves, some here may and probably have a reason. Anyone with half a brain knows that you need to control them, and anyone with a quarter of a brain knows controlling them isn't an easy feat! Add in absolute piss poor political policies and well you have the disaster at hand. Five tags a year isn't going to cut it. No night hunting isn't going to cut it. At least ID has pretty much gone open season year round on them. Introduce them into National Parks where they can't be controlled and we are paying for F&G to kill them is absolutely stupid!
My favorite wolf event in my great state of Michigan is................They dropped wolves on Isle Royal "to control the moose population". Instead of selling tags like they should have. Winter comes..............The big lake freezes and the wolves walk to the main land and disappear. Just as many moose on the island as ever
Cockfighting rooster growers down here shoot the heck out of raptors, had a kid come in and show me him, his brother and his dad holding a shotgunned adult baldie by the outspread wings.
When I was a kid any large bird perched on a pole was considered a target.
mike r
Ya, and that’s even without $20,000 worth of roosters staked out in the back yard.
Birds of prey were protected when I was a kid.
Me too. But picking off fighting chickens with a .22 was always fun.
When I was a kid in Colorado the only thing protected wore a brand
mike r
Brand or a collar.
But getting into a mess of brood stock fighting chicken hens made for some fun fast action shooting. Picking off the roosters on their barrels from 100+ with headshots was fun too. Those were good days.
Man, Michigan's been in the news a lot lately, just not for anything good. First, our [bleep] Governor, then failed dams(followed by more empty talk from [bleep] Governor) and now this poaching POS. I'm not EVEN going to ask what's next.
When I was a kid any large bird perched on a pole was considered a target.
mike r
Ya, and that’s even without $20,000 worth of roosters staked out in the back yard.
Birds of prey were protected when I was a kid.
Me too. But picking off fighting chickens with a .22 was always fun.
You must be really fearless there Guero.
Anyhoo some years back an ex-In Law was recruited to drive a pickup truck loaded down with crates of young roosters and pullets from here to Cuidad Juarez. He found out later the load was worth $30,000 and that the last driver had just disappeared, along with the truck.
I was wondering about this the other day, why exactly are birds of prey protected? What makes a damn chicken hawk better than a crow? Had one circling the other day, looked like he was eyeballing my ducks and rabbits...thought to myself "this guy doesn't understand how a protection act works out here"...he buggered off eventually.
The guy sounds like a total piece of crap. Odds are they nailed him on about 1% of what he actually poached. These types don't give a chit about any type of fair chase hunting, season, laws, or ethics.
Dog and chicken fighting are the sport of kings. African and Latin kings.
mike r
Dog fighting makes some sense, and chicken fighting might too if people had the patience to let 'em duke it out with their own spurs
Michael Vick and his 'banger buds would be in full agreement. It must be a ghetto [cultural] thing.
mike r
Sir, surely you cannot be ignorant of the long tradition of dog fighting in the South, among White folks?
Of course back then the referees had to be able to reach in and separate the dogs if necessary so that any pit bull that showed aggression towards humans wasa immediately culled.
Which is why people would leave a pit bull with their kids as protection back then, like Petey in the Little Rascals. OK, maybe that's actually a load of doohickey, Hawkeye will be along presently.
Cockfighting rooster growers down here shoot the heck out of raptors, had a kid come in and show me him, his brother and his dad holding a shotgunned adult baldie by the outspread wings.
Dog and chicken fighting are the sport of kings. African and Latin kings.
mike r
Dog fighting makes some sense, and chicken fighting might too if people had the patience to let 'em duke it out with their own spurs
Michael Vick and his 'banger buds would be in full agreement. It must be a ghetto [cultural] thing.
mike r
Sir, surely you cannot be ignorant of the long tradition of dog fighting in the South, among White folks?
Of course back then the referees had to be able to reach in and separate the dogs if necessary so that any pit bull that showed aggression towards humans wasa immediately culled.
Which is why people would leave a pit bull with their kids as protection back then, like Petey in the Little Rascals. OK, maybe that's actually a load of doohickey, Hawkeye will be along presently.
There are ghettos in the south, they call them hollers,and inbreed between dog fights. I sure hope you don't teach US history.
Cockfighting rooster growers down here shoot the heck out of raptors, had a kid come in and show me him, his brother and his dad holding a shotgunned adult baldie by the outspread wings.
Cockfighting rooster growers down here shoot the heck out of raptors, had a kid come in and show me him, his brother and his dad holding a shotgunned adult baldie by the outspread wings.
That's a really smart thing to post.
Can you tell us more?
Yes, after they found it laying on the ground, they reported it immediately.
Same kid used to work vacations as a jockey on the other side of the Border, I always used to call him El Gallinero. Honors student, good kid, went off to college, ain't heard from him since.
Dog and chicken fighting are the sport of kings. African and Latin kings.
mike r
Dog fighting makes some sense, and chicken fighting might too if people had the patience to let 'em duke it out with their own spurs
Michael Vick and his 'banger buds would be in full agreement. It must be a ghetto [cultural] thing.
mike r
Sir, surely you cannot be ignorant of the long tradition of dog fighting in the South, among White folks?
Of course back then the referees had to be able to reach in and separate the dogs if necessary so that any pit bull that showed aggression towards humans wasa immediately culled.
Which is why people would leave a pit bull with their kids as protection back then, like Petey in the Little Rascals. OK, maybe that's actually a load of doohickey, Hawkeye will be along presently.
There are ghettos in the south, they call them hollers,and inbreed between dog fights. I sure hope you don't teach US history.
mike r
I think that's racist, what did I say that was wrong about dogfighting?
Cockfighting rooster growers down here shoot the heck out of raptors, had a kid come in and show me him, his brother and his dad holding a shotgunned adult baldie by the outspread wings.
That's a really smart thing to post.
Can you tell us more?
Yes, after they found it laying on the ground, they reported it immediately.
Same kid used to work vacations as a jockey on the other side of the Border, I always used to call him El Gallinero. Honors student, good kid, went off to college, ain't heard from him since.
He was luckier than another kid anyhow, freshman year this other kid did a project on radishes, for the rest of his high school career I called him El Rabanero
Cockfighting rooster growers down here shoot the heck out of raptors, had a kid come in and show me him, his brother and his dad holding a shotgunned adult baldie by the outspread wings.
That's a really smart thing to post.
Can you tell us more?
Yes, after they found it laying on the ground, they reported it immediately.
Same kid used to work vacations as a jockey on the other side of the Border, I always used to call him El Gallinero. Honors student, good kid, went off to college, ain't heard from him since.
He was luckier than another kid anyhow, freshman year this other kid did a project on radishes, for the rest of his high school career I called him El Rabanero
Ever have a kid do a project with eggs?
Wouldn't want to have to call him El Huevon, would you?
I would find it a bit strange to see so much support for a poacher on a hunting site, if it was any other site than 24 Hour Campfire. No surprise here. GD
Cockfighting rooster growers down here shoot the heck out of raptors, had a kid come in and show me him, his brother and his dad holding a shotgunned adult baldie by the outspread wings.
That's a really smart thing to post.
Can you tell us more?
Yes, after they found it laying on the ground, they reported it immediately.
Same kid used to work vacations as a jockey on the other side of the Border, I always used to call him El Gallinero. Honors student, good kid, went off to college, ain't heard from him since.
He was luckier than another kid anyhow, freshman year this other kid did a project on radishes, for the rest of his high school career I called him El Rabanero
Ever have a kid do a project with eggs?
Wouldn't want to have to call him El Huevon, would you?
(El Blanquillero just doesn't sound right)
Senor, there’s some cultural subtleties one has to tread around carefully.
But way back when in happier times when preparing breakfast it used to crack my Ex up when I’d hold up a couple of eggs and say in my best Telemundo baritone....
Cockfighting rooster growers down here shoot the heck out of raptors, had a kid come in and show me him, his brother and his dad holding a shotgunned adult baldie by the outspread wings.
That's a really smart thing to post.
Can you tell us more?
Yes, after they found it laying on the ground, they reported it immediately.
Same kid used to work vacations as a jockey on the other side of the Border, I always used to call him El Gallinero. Honors student, good kid, went off to college, ain't heard from him since.
He was luckier than another kid anyhow, freshman year this other kid did a project on radishes, for the rest of his high school career I called him El Rabanero
Ever have a kid do a project with eggs?
Wouldn't want to have to call him El Huevon, would you?
(El Blanquillero just doesn't sound right)
Senor, there’s some cultural subtleties one has to tread around carefully.
But way back when in happier times when preparing breakfast it used to crack my Ex up when I’d hold up a couple of eggs and say in my best Telemundo baritone....
I would find it a bit strange to see so much support for a poacher on a hunting site, if it was any other site than 24 Hour Campfire. No surprise here. GD
But you fail to understand that it is not actually poaching when one is killing the predators of actual edible game.
This nation has spent $millions over the last couple centuries in the attempt to eradicate apex predators to protect this nations food supply. Then they turn around and spend $millions more to reestablish the apex predators for no more good reason than the furtherance of the disarmament of American Citizens.
Wolves on the endangered species list????LMFAO!
Let's move a couple hundred of the bastards into Central Park NY. That was historical habitat.
I'm with those who say the guy should be locked up.
My issue with the suspect is that he killed these animals because he could and liked doing it. He was not killing to protect his livestock, pets, or family but because he found enjoyment doing so. Substitute "neighborhood dogs" or "kids" for Wolves or eagles and most here would accuse the suspect of being an up and coming serial killer and be clamoring for his head. Many would also sing a different tune if the suspect was killing game for the fun of it versus feeding their family due to economic hardships.
I am not anti-hunting of wolves, far from it. The biggest problem with the ESA is the absolute and total protection given to the organisms placed on it. I do try to consider motivations behind an individual's actions before praising or condemning that person. In this case, based on the info given, I am not going to jump on his bandwagon.
Wish they'd catch the SOB that's been throwing out poison meatballs over by the UP/Wisconsin border. It's killed several dogs along with assorted wildlife. I don't get the wolf hate
You got that going on up there too, eh? Seems to be popular with the anti crowd. They don't care nothing about about killing other peoples dogs and anything else that gets in their way.
I can see where there could be a problem using poison on public property.
I'm with those who say the guy should be locked up.
My issue with the suspect is that he killed these animals because he could and liked doing it. He was not killing to protect his livestock, pets, or family but because he found enjoyment doing so. Substitute "neighborhood dogs" or "kids" for Wolves or eagles and most here would accuse the suspect of being an up and coming serial killer and be clamoring for his head. Many would also sing a different tune if the suspect was killing game for the fun of it versus feeding their family due to economic hardships.
I am not anti-hunting of wolves, far from it. The biggest problem with the ESA is the absolute and total protection given to the organisms placed on it. I do try to consider motivations behind an individual's actions before praising or condemning that person. In this case, based on the info given, I am not going to jump on his bandwagon.
Birdie—they fight roosters in Puerto Rico in the naked spur—some fights last for hours. In Mexico they fight in the short knife—most fights are over in seconds. Briton and America they fight in the Gaff which is right and proper.
My first thought on the charges 18 wolves in 18 months shows some serious skills.
I would find it a bit strange to see so much support for a poacher on a hunting site, if it was any other site than 24 Hour Campfire. No surprise here. GD
But you fail to understand that it is not actually poaching when one is killing the predators of actual edible game. This nation has spent $millions over the last couple centuries in the attempt to eradicate apex predators to protect this nations food supply. Then they turn around and spend $millions more to reestablish the apex predators for no more good reason than the furtherance of the disarmament of American Citizens. Wolves on the endangered species list????LMFAO! Let's move a couple hundred of the bastards into Central Park NY. That was historical habitat.
It is easy to support wolves in a place where they aren't killing your animals that you own or hunt. Especially if said wolves are causing trouble for people such as hunters or farmers whom you are already against. As to dogs being shot, I was friends with a local (now deceased) veterinarian that was known to say that most dogs that got shot deserved it. I love dogs but dogs can pack up and do really bad stuff. It has brought me to grief with 3 different good friends when I told them what their dogs were up to and the need to stop them. Now I don't mention it.
I would find it a bit strange to see so much support for a poacher on a hunting site, if it was any other site than 24 Hour Campfire. No surprise here. GD
Sometimes even a poacher has more common sense than emotional politicians who have absolutely no business dictating wildlife management laws.
Because something is the law, doesn't make it right.
I read a news release that indicates the man was using traps and snares. That may be the reason for the eagles getting killed. Non target species often get into traps. The eagles very well could have been by-catch.
I'm guessing he knew he was breaking the law. He got caught. There is no Constitutional right to kill protected species. No sympathy from me. He's a big boy who knew the consequences of his actions when he engaged in them.
I would find it a bit strange to see so much support for a poacher on a hunting site, if it was any other site than 24 Hour Campfire. No surprise here. GD
Sometimes even a poacher has more common sense than emotional politicians who have absolutely no business dictating wildlife management laws.
Because something is the law, doesn't make it right.
A lot of experts on wolves here who have never even seen one. Not surprising.
I would find it a bit strange to see so much support for a poacher on a hunting site, if it was any other site than 24 Hour Campfire. No surprise here. GD
Sometimes even a poacher has more common sense than emotional politicians who have absolutely no business dictating wildlife management laws.
Because something is the law, doesn't make it right.
A lot of experts on wolves here who have never even seen one. Not surprising.
UP deer herd devastated. Not safe to take your dog into woods. They terrorize livestock. Snowflakes and tree huggers may want wolves, I would like to see them all dead.
UP deer herd devastated. Not safe to take your dog into woods. They terrorize livestock. Snowflakes and tree huggers may want wolves,
Funny how even in this thread, the known liberal trolls are the ones defending the wolves...
I don't want all the wolves dead. Wolves have their place. Just not in areas where they are crammed down our throats, and create serious conflicts.
I don't want all eagles dead either. But to have politicians declare that just because they are eagles, they are exempt from being controlled when their numbers get out of control.
Said it before... Politics and Wildlife Management don't mix.
I would find it a bit strange to see so much support for a poacher on a hunting site, if it was any other site than 24 Hour Campfire. No surprise here. GD
Sometimes even a poacher has more common sense than emotional politicians who have absolutely no business dictating wildlife management laws.
Because something is the law, doesn't make it right.
A lot of experts on wolves here who have never even seen one. Not surprising.
UP deer herd devastated. Not safe to take your dog into woods. They terrorize livestock. Snowflakes and tree huggers may want wolves, I would like to see them all dead.
Funny how all the folks that I know that live in the UP don't have this problem. You seem to have a wolf-phobia issue. You probably could use a few good sessions with a shrink and quit reading Little Red Ridinghood stories. You get scared to easy and the stories are made up. You know - fantasy.
I'm with those who say the guy should be locked up.
My issue with the suspect is that he killed these animals because he could and liked doing it. He was not killing to protect his livestock, pets, or family but because he found enjoyment doing so. Substitute "neighborhood dogs" or "kids" for Wolves or eagles and most here would accuse the suspect of being an up and coming serial killer and be clamoring for his head. Many would also sing a different tune if the suspect was killing game for the fun of it versus feeding their family due to economic hardships.
I am not anti-hunting of wolves, far from it. The biggest problem with the ESA is the absolute and total protection given to the organisms placed on it. I do try to consider motivations behind an individual's actions before praising or condemning that person. In this case, based on the info given, I am not going to jump on his bandwagon.
I know of him takes it very serious about protecting his horses, cattle and other farm animals....he sold tanned hides on a corner of two major highways durning the summer months several miles from hunting camp... I venture to guess someone turned him in....even tho most locals could care less about wolves, bald eagles would get to a few....
The part where I was employed as one of only 2 wildlife specialists in the state qualified to accurately investigate re-introduced wolf program incidents?
The part where as a govt hunter, It was part of my job description to eliminate any large predator deemed to be a threat to the public? Including wolves.
You are so ignorant you squeak when you walk.
Now.... How about you let us know YOUR qualifications? How about a photo?
UP deer herd devastated. Not safe to take your dog into woods. They terrorize livestock. Snowflakes and tree huggers may want wolves, I would like to see them all dead.
Funny how all the folks that I know that live in the UP don't have this problem. You seem to have a wolf-phobia issue. You probably could use a few good sessions with a shrink and quit reading Little Red Ridinghood stories. You get scared to easy and the stories are made up. You know - fantasy.
The part where I was employed as one of only 2 wildlife specialists qualified to accurately investigate re-introduced wolf program incidents?
The part where as a govt hunter, It was part of my job description to eliminate any large predator deemed to be a threat to the public? Including wolves.
You are so ignorant you squeak when you walk.
Now.... How about you let us know YOUR qualifications? How about a photo?
We'll wait.
I have killed 2 in Idaho, one is rugged in my house. I have called in 9. A pic in pressed Wranglers standing by a truck in a state with no grey wolves hardly makes your point. All hat and all,,,,
I would find it a bit strange to see so much support for a poacher on a hunting site, if it was any other site than 24 Hour Campfire. No surprise here. GD
But you fail to understand that it is not actually poaching when one is killing the predators of actual edible game.
This nation has spent $millions over the last couple centuries in the attempt to eradicate apex predators to protect this nations food supply. Then they turn around and spend $millions more to reestablish the apex predators for no more good reason than the furtherance of the disarmament of American Citizens.
Wolves on the endangered species list????LMFAO!
Let's move a couple hundred of the bastards into Central Park NY. That was historical habitat.
I thought the article said he also poached deer, turkey's, bears, bocats, etc. In other words, an equal opportunity poacher. As far as controlling apex predators to protect the food supply of the nation is concerned, BS. The point was not to protect the food supply but to be perceived as protecting economic interests. For guys like our poacher here, he kills stuff because he figures it's his right. It is not. GD
The part where I was employed as one of only 2 wildlife specialists qualified to accurately investigate re-introduced wolf program incidents?
The part where as a govt hunter, It was part of my job description to eliminate any large predator deemed to be a threat to the public? Including wolves.
You are so ignorant you squeak when you walk.
Now.... How about you let us know YOUR qualifications? How about a photo?
We'll wait.
I have killed 2 in Idaho, one is rugged in my house. I have called in 9. A pic in pressed Wranglers standing by a truck in a state with no grey wolves hardly makes your point. All hat and all,,,,
Since you know so much..
How about you tell me which state I'm standing in, and how many wolves said state doesn't have?
How about you tell us all about the imaginary wolves you speak of didn't do this?
What proof do you have those are wolf kills? Big buckles and goofy jeans don't make you an expert. Wildlife services would have killed those wolves lets see the pics.
What proof do you have those are wolf kills? Big buckles and goofy jeans don't make you an expert. Wildlife services would have killed those wolves lets see the pics.
Just what job do you think that was? Clue: notice the large snares on the headache rack of the govt pickup?.. LOL.
More ignorance showing..
By all means continue.
But..No, dumbass. Wildlife Services doesn't just go kill wolves that kill cattle.
They send an investigator in to determine if the kill is actually a wolf kill, they also track which collard wolves were in the area and could have participated, and then report so that the rancher could be compensated for the loss.
In wolf protected areas, they only take out certain wolves that are multiple time killers, and it can be proven. (Hence the need for investigators... duh)
And yes, I have killed wolf, and beyond just that, I have personally called in and killed a wolf.
But please continue to dazzle us with your ignorance...
I think protecting any animal on the verge of extinction is prudent, but I can't fathom why anybody gives a fugk about some guy popping a couple in 2020.
Bald eagles are as much if not more scavenger than they are predator.
But it is harder to engender warm and fuzzy feelings over a scavenger vs. what is perceived to be a predator.
I think protecting any animal on the verge of extinction is prudent, but I can't fathom why anybody gives a fugk about some guy popping a couple in 2020.
Bald eagles are as much if not more scavenger than they are predator.
But it is harder to engender warm and fuzzy feelings over a scavenger vs. what is perceived to be a predator.
This may be true and is certainly interesting. In many respects, scavengers are more valuable than predators. To one guy who prided himself on shooting vultures, I asked if he preferred to have more rotting carcasses around. Like most carnivores, eagles are opportunistic feeders. Wolves, coyotes, bears, wolverine, all like carrion just fine but will also take live prey. Only the cats seem not to be as attracted to carrion. GD
UP deer herd devastated. Not safe to take your dog into woods. They terrorize livestock. Snowflakes and tree huggers may want wolves, I would like to see them all dead.
Funny how all the folks that I know that live in the UP don't have this problem. You seem to have a wolf-phobia issue. You probably could use a few good sessions with a shrink and quit reading Little Red Ridinghood stories. You get scared to easy and the stories are made up. You know - fantasy.
I lived in the UP for 20+ years. Only left for MT a few years ago because the hunting was so bad. That and the weather sucks. That statement isnt too far from the truth.
UP deer herd devastated. Not safe to take your dog into woods. They terrorize livestock. Snowflakes and tree huggers may want wolves, I would like to see them all dead.
Funny how all the folks that I know that live in the UP don't have this problem. You seem to have a wolf-phobia issue. You probably could use a few good sessions with a shrink and quit reading Little Red Ridinghood stories. You get scared to easy and the stories are made up. You know - fantasy.
You don’t know anyone in the UP. If by some small chance.you do know someone, they live in the Soo or Escanaba. I have many friends in the UP, and they all are out in the woods frequently. The wolves are so bold they ignore rocks thrown at them as they circle the campsite or hunter or mushroom pickers. Loud noises and momentary bright light has an effect. One buddy lost his prize bird dog to wolves.
UP deer herd devastated. Not safe to take your dog into woods. They terrorize livestock. Snowflakes and tree huggers may want wolves, I would like to see them all dead.
Funny how all the folks that I know that live in the UP don't have this problem. You seem to have a wolf-phobia issue. You probably could use a few good sessions with a shrink and quit reading Little Red Ridinghood stories. You get scared to easy and the stories are made up. You know - fantasy.
You don’t know anyone in the UP. If by some small chance.you do know someone, they live in the Soo or Escanaba. I have many friends in the UP, and they all are out in the woods frequently. The wolves are so bold they ignore rocks thrown at them as they circle the campsite or hunter or mushroom pickers. Loud noises and momentary bright light has an effect. One buddy lost his prize bird dog to wolves.
You make good stories. None of which are true, but they will make for good forum filler.
When I rode West Texas east to west on a bicycle last summer, I didn’t see a single hawk of any kind from near Mason to out past Sweetwater, im recalling only five turkey vultures, no black vultures at all, this over a distance I noted at the time of about 300 miles.
UP deer herd devastated. Not safe to take your dog into woods. They terrorize livestock. Snowflakes and tree huggers may want wolves, I would like to see them all dead.
Funny how all the folks that I know that live in the UP don't have this problem. You seem to have a wolf-phobia issue. You probably could use a few good sessions with a shrink and quit reading Little Red Ridinghood stories. You get scared to easy and the stories are made up. You know - fantasy.
You don’t know anyone in the UP. If by some small chance.you do know someone, they live in the Soo or Escanaba. I have many friends in the UP, and they all are out in the woods frequently. The wolves are so bold they ignore rocks thrown at them as they circle the campsite or hunter or mushroom pickers. Loud noises and momentary bright light has an effect. One buddy lost his prize bird dog to wolves.