I am getting a 270 Win. So far I have 2 bullets - 130 Hornady SST and 140 Gr Hornady SPBT interlock. Not much choice out there these days. I also have h4350 and h4831. Plan top use on PA whitetails.

You should certainly be able to work up something with those components. My rifle like 58.5 grs. H4831 with the SST 130's.

130 grain partitions and 59 grains of H4831. And go hunting

Well, you've got the right powders, bullets could be debateable, but in today's climate, be happy with what you have, it's tough to find ANYthing out there right now.

I use this load on Missouri farm-fed whitetails
130 Sierra ProHunter
59.5 H-4831SC
Fed. 215M primers
Winchester cases.
Never had any problems with that load, deer are easy to kill.
In the past, I used another load that worked fine
130 Sierra Gamekings
54.5 IMR-4350
WLR primers
Winchester cases.
Never had any problems with that load, either, it's a little slower (100fps or so, not enough to matter)

Just about anything you can stick in a case and shoot halfway well will kill any deer walking, though. It doesn't matter much one way or another. Deer are easy to kill.

Even a 7x57 will kill them, if it doesn't bounce off the hide. Sometimes they do, you know.........d:^)

I run 60.0 grains of H4831, 210M and 130 grain BT, Accubond, partition or Sierra.

Dink

Mine also likes 58.5 gr of H4831 sc, but with 130 gr. Nosler partitions. I'd think that powder charge would be in the ball park for just about any 130 gr. bullet...

try 55 grs 4350 and 130 gr remington power points I really like this load

The 140btsp is the bullet I use. My rifle likes I-4350, but you can't go wrong with both the powders you have.

I used the 140gr BTSP with a 22" Tikka T3. I used this bullet as a less expensive alternative to the 140gr NAB.

I noticed two things with the 140gr BTSP vs the 140gr NAB:

1. The advertised BC was the ~same. Out to ~500 yards they were interchangeable with the same zero and impact. At 800 yards, the BTSP impact was a good foot lower than the NAB. I don't know if the Hornady BC was inflated, or if the bullet just did not stabilize as well with the load I used vs. the Nosler (i.e the BTSP shed some velocity?). Not really a knock on the BTSP, but just an observation I found interesting. 800 yards is not really relevant for most people anyway.

2. Both bullets were used with the same brass (Win), same primer (Fed), and same powder charge (Hunter). Velocities were the ~same, 100 yard point of impact was the same. I could shoot either bullet with the same zero. The BTSP loads showed primers that were definitely flatter, every time. I'm not one to "look for pressure signs" in this manner, but when the loads are identical other than the bullet used I think flattend primers become relevant. It turns out that the BTSP bullets are a hair larger in diameter. Don't know if this is the reason for elevated pressures or not, but another interesting observation.

Overall, the 140gr NAB shot a little better and appeared to do so with less pressure, at least with Ramshot Hunter in my rifle. But they cost almost 2x as much. I'd have no problem hunting with the BTSP is that is what's available.

I used the Hornady 140 BTSP Interlock for years in my Remington 700. 53.5 grains of IMR-4350 in Winchester cases gave me 2998 fps (chronographed) from a 22" factory barrel.

59-60 grains of H-4831 works well with just about any 130 gr. bullet. A classic load.

I'm loading 60 grains of H4831 with the 130 grain Hornady spire points. I have also tried the 140 BTSP with Reloder 17, that was incosistent in my rifle. I didn't try them with H4831 (yet).


Dale

Has anybody chronied a load with mag primers and large rifle primers to compare the velocity?

Can't believe I haven't seen any "Ditch the .270" posts yet? Campfire is just going down the tubes I guess

The 140 Hornady BTSP over H4831SC is one of the most accurate combinations in my very accurate Pac Nor barrel. I've yet to try it on deer since I've mainly been running 25 calibers for deer the last few years. If it performs anything like the 130 Interlock it would be a sure winner. This old rifle and 130 interlocks killed a pile of deer in my younger years.

59 grains H4831sc and a 140 Accubond. Maxed out but very deadly!

Gay cartridge, but the 140 IL rocks over 59 grs of H4831 in my BPR.

H4831SC and 130GMX....

Well for a lot of years I shot 57.5 gr of IMR-4831 in a WW case and what ever primer I had on hand at the time under a 130 gr Speer SP. My guess you will find a load quick enough. 60 gr of 4831 with a 130 gr bullet is the classic Jack O'Conner load. H-4831 should get you there or close to it, with good velocity and groups. 270's are pretty easy to load for. My last one would shoot everything well except 140 gr bullets. Then again I never though I needed more that a 130 gr bullet out of a 270 anyway. I hope this panic and shortage business eases up some, but with the current leadership, I have my doubts.

Strut
4350 works too. About 54 grains with the 130 grain and 52 grains with the 140. Good luck.

So far, I guess I'm the odd guy out. My load is a 150 Partition and 57.0 grs. of Rldr-22. It's 2930 fps and 1" or slightly less grouping all the time in my Pre-64. What's not to like?
Bear in Fairbanks

Tag

You're it?

I figure my Zastava with 24 inch barrel must be fractionally oversize, because even when I load to 61g of H4831SC I am only getting 3030fps with the 130g SST and 130 Hotcor.

That's not to be sniffed at, but I find 4350/2209 gets the 130s up around that standard of 3100fps where 4831/2213 just can't. In fact it can get those 130g bullets right up to 3200 odd no worries.

So for me its 4350 and the like for 130s where I find 4831 excels with the 150 grainers and the 160s too.

Magpro rocks in the .270.

RL22 is also really good but it isn't as consistently good as Magpro. Nor does it meter as well.

Imr4350 worked best in the 130's for me and H4831 for 140 and 150. In any case- you have winners on your reloading bench right now.

Funny trend I thought I was seeing was that a lot of 270 were seeming to prefer heavier bullets.

Thats because they would rather be 30-06's

'06 Wannabe's. That's funny...

DF

Have never seen the need for bullets heavier than 130gr in any of the .270's I've owned.

Been going to the 110gr bullets lately.

Couldn't hardly give me a .30-06 but will eagerly snap up a .270.

.30-06, effective, abundant, abysmally boring.

Back to your regularly scheduled program already in progress.

When your fixing to size a case besure to have the die squared very good , now lube good and make sure the case neck after it is sized and takes either 6.5 or 7mm bullets with proper neck tension and that be the best 270 you could ever need

Sounds like a waste of perfectly good brass to me.....

Hey Bob, ain't it surprising the 270 W did not die at least 30-40 yrs. ago. Seems such a poor caliber (277) in this day and age of 'enlightenment'.

How in the world does ammo & dies stay in the top 10 or top 5?

Because it is such a mild mannered killer and flat shooting like a magnum. Course you already knew that.

60 grains H4831sc under a 130 Partition..... It can work.

Absolutely!!

Must be the BEST kept secret since "Hawaii".

Not exactly what you asked for since it was two different rifles, but 54gr of Hunter with WLR ran 2810 fps (8-shot avg) out of a Rem 760. Same charge, same brass, but Fed 215 ran 2874 fps (5-shot avg) from a Tikka T3. Not apples-to-apples, but both had 22" barrels. Bullet was 140gr NAB. IIRC, velocities were similar with these rifles when using identical loads.

I ended up using the Fed 215 for my final loads. They shot great and I had a ton of 215 primers.

RL22 + 130gr Barnes + 1st generation Remington Mountain Rifle = good times!

Throw in an alpine mule deer hunt with your kid brother, a sweet 375 yard shot and watching a grizzly sow and two fat cubs while he guts the deer = one of the most memorable hunts ever!

The load I used is from Barnes No.1 and was too hot in every other .270 Win I ever loaded for. Chronographed velocity was +3150fps, I can't remember the exact number. I also used RL22 and the Hornady 140gr BTSP, for well over 3000fps, but again I can't remember the exact numbers, although my friend still uses that load in his L61R Sako.

Great looking country and deer Arac.

Cool hunt and story, Arac. Sweet buck.

Nice buck... I have used that combo a few times myself.

Actually there are a lot of 270 users like Aheider and Arac, grinning like Halloween pumpkins over dead animals after proper application of a 270 bullet...everything from pronghorn to grizzly amd moose,and bunches of African stuff, too....These boys tend not to obsess too much, grab a rifle,and simply go out and kill animals....piles and piles of them annually.

These guys tend to be hunters first, ballistic gackers second.And of course there is noting wrong with being either one....but some folks like to have stuff to worry about...

I always liked 130's best,simply choosing a somewhat tougher one for hunting and a soft one for varmints and target practice.

Funny I have used lots of 130s and lots of 150s, and a few 160s in the 270 but never the 140s. Seems to 140 grainer would be a great compromise, but I always seemed to want to use the others.

I must admit I have never used the 270 on really big deer like sambar, nor buffs or scrub bulls or camels; mainly pigs, goats and medium sized deer. But on that style of game I find soft-ish 150g bullets like the SST are the fastest killers.

Plenty of penetration, a really devastating wound from nearly any angle and DRT game in most cases.

Started with 130s, in, what else, a P-64-70, in my first of about a dozen .270s and this was the influence of some old guy writing in the mag. I used to hide in my desk in both junior and senior high schools, to aleviate the boredom of most classes.

When, I FINALLY was "released" from the 12.5 years of "penal servitude" society seems to mistake for "public education", I was able to get a job, buy GUNS and try out every type of rifle, gun, load and bullet available in mi-1960s, B.C.....NOT much of a selection!

I soon found that the grizzled older guys I started work with in the BC "bush" as all non-urban areas, other than farmland and industrial installations are called here, had VERY little respect for the "guru" I had considered the "ultimate" authority on such matters and also that the rifle(s) I chose in .270 did not always shoot the 130s well.

I changed to the 150NP, first over IMR-4350, then H-4831 and circa 1990, RE-22 and THAT was/is IT, end of story. While I came to understand that the "guru" HAD been worth reading, but, that many of my older co-workers, had far greater real bush knowledge and knew a few things, as well, I tended to be guided by what MY rifles did and so have used this load consistently.

For a light-recoiling, VERY accurate and MOST effective load for any BC game I have ever been involved with hunting/killing, I seriously doubt that a better load than a .277"-150NP at 2850+ is or even CAN BE developed. I once, decades ago, saw a fairly large Kootenay Grizzly neatly killed with this load, not in my rifle, but, it seemed to work as well as any other I have seen and it is easy to shoot well.

So, I consider this as useful a load for any hunting I might do as anything and tend to use it or the very similar .284"-160NP-2850 fps in my .280 Rem. rifles more and more as I age and the various 9ish pound magnum rifles seem to "weigh" more each passing month........

Kutenay the 150 NPT was a favorite load of the late Bill Jordan,hand gunner extraordinaire...and he used it almost exclusively here and in Africa.

Kute:
A typically excellent reply from an experienced ol' codger.

bobnob17:
There was no such thing as a 140 gr. bullet for the .27's when I was growing up. I still can't see the point of them being on the market except that the bean counters advertise 'em as the latest & greatest of all worlds. For me, they're neither fish nor fowl. 10 grains +/- make no difference in real life.
Bear in Fairbanks

Mine likes Imr 4350 and Nosler 140gr AB

56 grains H4831sc under a 150 speer hot core in my 270 BAR shoots consistent .75"-1"- 5 shot 100 yard groups and at least 5 mule deer one hit kills at fairly long ranges in a few cases in my experience with that rifle have proven its darn effective

Any love for the lighter bullets like the 95gr Barnes TTSX or the 110gr TSX? Knocked off an big cow elk with the 110gr TSX out of a 6.8 AR and she really didn't like that much at all as it was DRT.

Been thinking and perusing loads for upcoming cow elk which is gonna be a farm hunt in November. Not quite a canned hunt but I'm guessing it will be close. I'm looking forward to the meat in the freezer but I do have to admit to a little mental masturbation over the exact rifle/load to use.

Used a butt load of Sierra 130gr Gamekings (bought cheap from the outlet store at the factory in the 90's) culling red deer hinds in Scotland back when I lived in the UK so I know they work real well.

Just got to thinking about that light 95gr TTSX howling along at about 3700fps and how flat shooting that sucker would be. Or the 110gr at 3500. Have some 150 Ballistic tips to play with too. Choices, choices but aren't they the kind of things that give rifle looney's things to think about outside of hunting season?? ;-)

I love the lighter .277" bullets and have little use for any above 130gr.
The 110TTSX at warp speed is just about a perfect load.

What are you running with the 110's? Been thinking about playing with those myself...

If I was to go down that road I would like to experiment with the 100 or 110 Accubond, doing 3500fps or maybe a bit more.

I am a fan of a healthy amount of deformation and am also happy enough for bits to fly off my bullet and tear up tissue as it passes through the game. Those little ABs at fast speeds might be just the ticket.

There certainly wouldn't be much guess work necessary with holdover out to around 350+ yards. For a bloke that doesn't shoot much farther than that under the best of conditions, this holds some appeal.

One day I might give those light ones a whirl.

Running my favorite powder, Magpro, and pushing them to ~3470 out of a 24" tube.
Fixing to try out N560 and should be able to crack 3500 with this combo.
Also have a bunch of the 110NAB's I'll be trying when this damn snow goes away.

No plans on shooting past 350 with the .270; got lots of other guns that do that much better like a 7mm RM, .300WM and a .338 Lapua Mag. Not used the AB much although I did shoot some out of my AR in 6.8 at targets when my buddy at Silver State Armory gave me some to try. They sure do look wicked tho...!

I have total confidence in the Barnes to stand up to those kind of velocities; AB's I have no real experience with as I mentioned. Like I said, I still have a big bag full of 130gr Sierra GK's that have dropped everything I ever pointed the gun at with no issues.

Never shot an elk with a .270 Win tho'; heard the bullets often bounce off unless you're real close......

Dewey,

The 150 Partition just whacks the snot out of animals.

Eileen and I have killed a bunch of animals with that bullet from the .270, including the "quickest-deadest" bull moose I have seen killed, Eileen's Shiras she took in 1988. It was quartering away at about 125 yards, and when the 150 hiy the short ribs it took a step and a half and collapsed, really most sincerely dead. The bullet ended up in the shoulder on the other side.

Eileen wasn't into handloading back then, as she is today, but had to memorize the exact load (Jack O'Connor's 58.5 grains of H4831) so she could torture friends of ours at that year's Christmas and New Year's parties--all the guys who'd never drawn a Montana moose tag.

Have seen similar results on a bunch of game both in North America and Africa--though not always quite so instantaneous. However, can't remember a big game animal of any kind going more than 50 yards after a well-placed 150 Partition from the .270.

It is a well known fact that the 270 Winchester is widely considered by many to be the lightning bolt of big-game cartridges.

Another laserbeamed DRT(140 Accubond/H4831SC).

Sam,

Nice buck!

That bullet works too. I've seen it in action myself....

nice buck Sam!

I like the split eye guard and it looks like a couple cheaters on either side. Beauty!!

You guys are all talking crazy!!



140 Accubond over 58.5 H4831sc.

If 130's work....and 150's work....there is no reason a 140 won't.

Looking forward to the 150gr. Nosler Accubond LR jobs myself.

Oregon or nevada goat?....I like those heavy bases

62 g Magpro, 215M primer, Win case, 130 TTSX. At or close to max, work up to it in your gun. 3/4 to 1 inch all day in my boat paddle MKII.

But what you have will knock stuff over, despite what Ingwe says.

I just ordered some Barnes new 129 grain lrx's with a .463 bc to play with.

Wyoming.