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Does not seem that Weatherby gets much attention here, but I've always been interested in owning one, or a few. They seem like nice rifles.

So many rifles to choose from so many manufacturers. I'm not a great shot to begin with, so was thinking of buying a rifle that has already been "verified", such as a Cooper or Weatherby RC. That way at least I know what the rifle CAN do. So I'm looking at Weatherby's website and WOW they have seriously reduced their offerings both in model and caliber options. For instance, in most of the Mark V the 30-06 and 308 Win is not available. But of course the 6.5 CREEDMORE is there frown

Had my eye on a their Weatherguard HBAR that was Range Certified, in 308 Win. Great rifle for the hunting I do. Should have bought it when it was avaialable.

Guess they are feeling the pressure from competition and needed to weed out some low sellers.
I knew some guys in Texas that shot 300’s in the vanguard, certified model if I recall. Those rifles shot really well.
The mark v would be nice.
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
Does not seem that Weatherby gets much attention here, but I've always been interested in owning one, or a few. They seem like nice rifles.

So many rifles to choose from so many manufacturers. I'm not a great shot to begin with, so was thinking of buying a rifle that has already been "verified", such as a Cooper or Weatherby RC. That way at least I know what the rifle CAN do. So I'm looking at Weatherby's website and WOW they have seriously reduced their offerings both in model and caliber options. For instance, in most of the Mark V the 30-06 and 308 Win is not available. But of course the 6.5 CREEDMORE is there frown

Had my eye on a their Weatherguard HBAR that was Range Certified, in 308 Win. Great rifle for the hunting I do. Should have bought it when it was avaialable.

Guess they are feeling the pressure from competition and needed to weed out some low sellers.


Every manufacturer is feeling the pressure. It used to be Remington,Winchester ,Ruger and Weatherby for bolt rifles. I have lost count of how many manufacturers sell their bolt rifles now, regular production,semi-custom and full custom , it is a crowded market for sure.

Weatherby sells a lot of Vanguards which are probably the best push feed rifle on the market right now for the price. You have to spend another 1k to get slightly better. They have also dropped the price of their ammunition 30% and that is well worth it. It's exact and matches advertised factory velocity.
Any/all Ratherbee's with more than (2) locking lugs,are fhuqking JUNK. Tough to swoon the 308 in any application,save mebbe an MBR and make mine a '10,followed in a wayyyyyyy distant second by a '91(guilty of both of course). Hint.

It's still "Creedmoor",unless you have several in multiple bore sizes,then it is Kreedmire. Congratulations?!?

Go straight Howa in S/S and cut to the fhuqking chase and holster the 308 notion.

Thank me later.

Hint...........................
Only way to get a SS Howa now is a Vanguard, and it's well worth the extra bucks because you also get a usable stock. Still crap, but usable crap.

I think Australia still gets SS Howas, but I'm too old to move.
I have vanguard S2 in 25-06, it is a nice solid rifle. The stocks and actions are light years better than the Axis, American, 783 and such. I am pretty sure even the vanguard S2's come with a 1 MOA guarantee. They are a good way to try a Weatherby for 499 bucks.
If i were in the market for a new Weatherby I'd most likely go with a Vanguard (Howa)....I think these are some of the best push feed bolt action rifles on the market at any price 👍......Good luck....Hb
When I wanted to try the 6.5 Creedmoor, I bought a Weatherby V2 in 02/14. It is the most accurate straight out of the box centerfire rifle that I've yet to own.

I have 3 V2s, all are capable of shooting MOA or better groups.
Ditto to what oldelkhunter stated.....the vanguard is a solid well built rifle ......great value for those of us "not great shooters to begin with"......my series 1 vanguard is a tack driver with no modification.....my howa 1500 has the same trigger as the series 2 vanguard, an excellent 2-stage upgrade.
Vanguards are the only ones I liked. I need to find some more of those V2 20” carbines in 6.5 or 7-08
I have an Accumark in .270 that makes me look like Ive been trained to shoot.. that guns just flat out accurate.

I wouldnt hesitate to buy another when the time comes.
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

Had my eye on a their Weatherguard HBAR that was Range Certified, in 308 Win.


Practically any Vanguard or Howa whether range certified or not, will shoot some kind of factory ammo into 1" groups! You may need to try a few brands and bullet weights. (also don't be surprised if a range certified does not shoot all brands as accurately) I'm not convinced they are worth any extra money.

Regarding the Mark V action, they have a peculiar design feature threading the front action screw into the bottom of the recoil lug. Weird enough to cause me to pass.

I agree with some of the other posts, a Howa or Vanguard is a very well made rifle, and among my favorites, up there with Tikka and Rem. M700s with after market trigger assemblies.
I am a fan of the weatherby rifles and own several. I have the .240 and .257 in the Accuguard rifle that I really like. The S2 rifles are very good rifles for the money.
I like em too, a 6 lug ulw is one of the more comfortable rifles goin..for me
The Vanguard has been a part of Wby since the mid 1970s. So yeah Howa makes a damn great bolt gun right out of the box.
Originally Posted by StrayDog
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

Had my eye on a their Weatherguard HBAR that was Range Certified, in 308 Win.


Practically any Vanguard or Howa whether range certified or not, will shoot some kind of factory ammo into 1" groups! You may need to try a few brands and bullet weights. (also don't be surprised if a range certified does not shoot all brands as accurately) I'm not convinced they are worth any extra money.

Regarding the Mark V action, they have a peculiar design feature threading the front action screw into the bottom of the recoil lug. Weird enough to cause me to pass.

I guess you will be passing on a Vanguard since they are set up the same.





I have owned 3 over the years 1 MK5 in 280 Remington that was a great shooter and two vanguards which both shot 1 in 300 win mag and 1 257 Weatherby! I know many hear don’t like them, but IMO they are decent guns. I think the recent changes were needed......the bolt gun market is crowded and most bolt guns above $750.00 shoot. They have tweaked the B&C stock and added the new high end carbon. The 6.5 rpm is interesting and a step in the right direction imo. MK now have fluted bolts , cerakote etc. Less fancy wood and more modern looks. All changes that were needed. All MK 5 use criterion barrels which are decent as well. Just my opinion but I think they are doing some good things!
If they would offer a straight comb stock, I would have a several more vanguards in my safe. That signature Monte Carlo hump just doesn’t fit me.
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Originally Posted by StrayDog
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

Had my eye on a their Weatherguard HBAR that was Range Certified, in 308 Win.


Practically any Vanguard or Howa whether range certified or not, will shoot some kind of factory ammo into 1" groups! You may need to try a few brands and bullet weights. (also don't be surprised if a range certified does not shoot all brands as accurately) I'm not convinced they are worth any extra money.

Regarding the Mark V action, they have a peculiar design feature threading the front action screw into the bottom of the recoil lug. Weird enough to cause me to pass.

I guess you will be passing on a Vanguard since they are set up the same.

Dang, I didn't know that, the crow doesn't taste too bad cause I appreciate a free education. Anyway, I still prefer Vanguards to Mark Vs, as I prefer Chevy Tahoes to Cadillac Escalades.






Had a nice vanguard in .300 win mag. Sold it because I decided if I was going to own a weatherby it needed to be shooting a weatherby load. Still haven't replaced it.

It was a nice shooting rifle.
Howa has been at it for a long time. S&W used them for their model 1500 back in the early 80’s. The hi-luster bluing was incredible on those guns. I have never heard a bad word regarding Howa 1500’s no matter whose name was engraved on them.
Hell..the Weatherby Vanguards shoot as well as anything on the market, good prices, great durability....quantum leaps ahead of the MarkV...
Originally Posted by TomM1
If they would offer a straight comb stock, I would have a several more vanguards in my safe. That signature Monte Carlo hump just doesn’t fit me.


GPC has at least 5 straight comb walnut stocks for short action 1500s, their part numbers 1772680, 584440A/B/C/D.
I’ve always said that I’d own a Weatherby if it wasnt for their awful stocks

In reality I probably still wouldn’t but I do hate their stocks
Originally Posted by Quak
I’ve always said that I’d own a Weatherby if it wasnt for their awful stocks

In reality I probably still wouldn’t but I do hate their stocks


The current production Vanguard2 stocks may be, imo, among the best injection molded stocks that any manufacturer has put on a regular production rifle.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by TomM1
If they would offer a straight comb stock, I would have a several more vanguards in my safe. That signature Monte Carlo hump just doesn’t fit me.


GPC has at least 5 straight comb walnut stocks for short action 1500s, their part numbers 1772680, 584440A/B/C/D.


I hear ya and though about going that route, but one aspect that Weatherby has everyone else playing second fiddle to is fit and finish. Their $500 guns exceed most $1200 in this category. If I buy a Weatherby, I want that fit and finish. Yes I know some sandpaper and touch up paint, 1/2 hr and it will fit like a glove, but there is something to rifles that you buy, mount a scope and they just shoot. They have lasting power while the projects tend to move down the road.
Originally Posted by TomM1
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by TomM1
If they would offer a straight comb stock, I would have a several more vanguards in my safe. That signature Monte Carlo hump just doesn’t fit me.


GPC has at least 5 straight comb walnut stocks for short action 1500s, their part numbers 1772680, 584440A/B/C/D.


I hear ya and though about going that route, but one aspect that Weatherby has everyone else playing second fiddle to is fit and finish. Their $500 guns exceed most $1200 in this category. If I buy a Weatherby, I want that fit and finish. Yes I know some sandpaper and touch up paint, 1/2 hr and it will fit like a glove, but there is something to rifles that you buy, mount a scope and they just shoot. They have lasting power while the projects tend to move down the road.


I'm a tinkerer, so I seldom leave a rifle, particularly a recently production bolt action rifle, in its NIB condition. I don't accommodate myself to a rifle, unless it is collectible, I make the rifle fit me.

I have 4 V2s. The 3 that I shoot, 223/243/6.5CM, have been bedded in McM Hunter stocks.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by Quak
I’ve always said that I’d own a Weatherby if it wasnt for their awful stocks

In reality I probably still wouldn’t but I do hate their stocks


The current production Vanguard2 stocks may be, imo, among the best injection molded stocks that any manufacturer has put on a regular production rifle.

Yes, agreed... I'd like a rounded, straight comb classic too.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by Quak
I’ve always said that I’d own a Weatherby if it wasnt for their awful stocks

In reality I probably still wouldn’t but I do hate their stocks


The current production Vanguard2 stocks may be, imo, among the best injection molded stocks that any manufacturer has put on a regular production rifle.

Yes, agreed... I'd like a rounded, straight comb classic too.


Alpine.

If you're patient, a bargain will find you. There was a .243 on here just the other day. $600 for a pristine specimen.
I sure don't need another rile.... But some of their new offerings have caught my eye.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by Quak
I’ve always said that I’d own a Weatherby if it wasnt for their awful stocks

In reality I probably still wouldn’t but I do hate their stocks


The current production Vanguard2 stocks may be, imo, among the best injection molded stocks that any manufacturer has put on a regular production rifle.



It’s not the quality...it’s the fit and appearance
Weatherby is making a big mistake not offering their new 6.5 RPM in the Vanguard! A large segment of the market is being overlooked. Not a good decision if trying to elevate a new cartridge offering, imo.
The 6.5 RPM seems a bit gimmicky. It is being marketed for a light weight Titanium 5 lbs Mark V. It’s ballistics are no better than a 6.5 Rem Mag and a bit behind the 264 Win Mag. In a 5 lbs rifle I’ll take the 6.5 Creedmoor any day. If I need to jump up to a bit more power I’ll just shoot the tried and true 7mm Rem Mag.
Ya what a buncha dummies!!!! Sub 264 win mag performance with MORE powder capacity, in a non belted cartridge, weighing under 5lbs!!!!! How dare they!!!!! 😂😂
The 24 hcf elitists should have weatherby shut down!!!! Those curvey stocks, no venturi shoulder, no belt, not enough room to house a 600 grain vld..... Fuuck.......

I guess folks might have to "hunt"!!!!! Haha
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Howa has been at it for a long time. S&W used them for their model 1500 back in the early 80’s. The hi-luster bluing was incredible on those guns. I have never heard a bad word regarding Howa 1500’s no matter whose name was engraved on them.



Let's change that.

Bought a 243 Vanguard with my lunch money around 1983. Before there were
multiple models. Dad bought a 7mag around the same time.

I have never seen rifles so eager to rust. We are meticulous, take stuff to
wipe out guns down on any trip, and do so daily. On a week long trip we wiped
down every evening, others never did. We both got rust spots, the only people
to get any.

Mine was built on a long action, not sure if a short was available or what happened.
The cartridges slide back and forth with a click every time you tilt the gun much.

Dads ended up with the firing pin being too short, caused some misfired.
Never blew a primer, just a mist and I guess.

Other than the above, his has been in use since new. Whitetail, and Mule Deer, elk, caribou,
and moose have been taken with it. Both were accurate, and have functioned well.
Even mine, with those rounds sliding around, work the bolt, it functions fine,
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by Quak
I’ve always said that I’d own a Weatherby if it wasnt for their awful stocks

In reality I probably still wouldn’t but I do hate their stocks


The current production Vanguard2 stocks may be, imo, among the best injection molded stocks that any manufacturer has put on a regular production rifle.

Yes, agreed... I'd like a rounded, straight comb classic too.


Alpine.

If you're patient, a bargain will find you. There was a .243 on here just the other day. $600 for a pristine specimen.

I'll take a look at them, though I need another factory rifle very little.
Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
Vanguards are the only ones I liked. I need to find some more of those V2 20” carbines in 6.5 or 7-08


The carbines were like an M7 without the slop. I found one in 7-08 for a buddy to give to his son, but he’s got two boys and wants them to have identical guns. Haven’t seen anymore since, at least in 7-08. Might get him two 6.5s or 308s and see if I can trade him for that 7-08 back. LOL
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Alpine.

If you're patient, a bargain will find you. There was a .243 on here just the other day. $600 for a pristine specimen.


I put together a brand new Alpine for $600, $399 for the .308 Win rifle at Sportsmans Warehouse and $200 for the stock off of Campfire Classifieds. I have another Alpine stock waiting for a barreled action in my safe, it'll be a 6mm Creedmoor someday.
I keep asking Santa Claus for a Vanguard in 7mm Weatherby, but he keeps ignoring me.
Originally Posted by Pappy348


Alpine.


Yah, that's the shape. Simply do that with the "good" poly for the 1500s and Minis and we'd be all set IMO.


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I am intrigued by the rifle. Particularly the .25-06. The Vanguard is the only "budget rifle" I have found in .25-06 with a 24 inch barrel, and if I get a 25, that is what I want.
Originally Posted by HCDH66
I am intrigued by the rifle. Particularly the .25-06. The Vanguard is the only "budget rifle" I have found in .25-06 with a 24 inch barrel, and if I get a 25, that is what I want.


If there is a budget rifle out there it is the Remington 700. The Vanguard is better in every respect with the exception of weight. Vanguards have stepped up the game this year with the addition of 26" barrels.
I just ordered a 240 Bee in the Backcountry MK V I really dig the fast twist barrel Twist Rate: 1-7.5”
Originally Posted by deltakid
I keep asking Santa Claus for a Vanguard in 7mm Weatherby, but he keeps ignoring me.


Soooo, maybe your little elf self should help him out?
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
Does not seem that Weatherby gets much attention here, but I've always been interested in owning one, or a few. They seem like nice rifles.

So many rifles to choose from so many manufacturers. I'm not a great shot to begin with, so was thinking of buying a rifle that has already been "verified", such as a Cooper or Weatherby RC. That way at least I know what the rifle CAN do. So I'm looking at Weatherby's website and WOW they have seriously reduced their offerings both in model and caliber options. For instance, in most of the Mark V the 30-06 and 308 Win is not available. But of course the 6.5 CREEDMORE is there frown

Had my eye on a their Weatherguard HBAR that was Range Certified, in 308 Win. Great rifle for the hunting I do. Should have bought it when it was avaialable.

Guess they are feeling the pressure from competition and needed to weed out some low sellers.



The weatherguard Hbar is still catalogued. It's under the legacy models
Originally Posted by deltakid
I keep asking Santa Claus for a Vanguard in 7mm Weatherby, but he keeps ignoring me.



They also upped the twist on the 7mm Bee. Twist Rate: 1-8.5” from 1:10"
Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
Does not seem that Weatherby gets much attention here, but I've always been interested in owning one, or a few. They seem like nice rifles.

So many rifles to choose from so many manufacturers. I'm not a great shot to begin with, so was thinking of buying a rifle that has already been "verified", such as a Cooper or Weatherby RC. That way at least I know what the rifle CAN do. So I'm looking at Weatherby's website and WOW they have seriously reduced their offerings both in model and caliber options. For instance, in most of the Mark V the 30-06 and 308 Win is not available. But of course the 6.5 CREEDMORE is there frown

Had my eye on a their Weatherguard HBAR that was Range Certified, in 308 Win. Great rifle for the hunting I do. Should have bought it when it was avaialable.

Guess they are feeling the pressure from competition and needed to weed out some low sellers.



The weatherguard Hbar is still catalogued. It's under the legacy models

Silly me. I presumed the "legacy models" could not be had as they were "legacy" and not made anymore. Go figure.
Originally Posted by wbyfan1
Weatherby is making a big mistake not offering their new 6.5 RPM in the Vanguard! A large segment of the market is being overlooked. Not a good decision if trying to elevate a new cartridge offering, imo.


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