Yep,
Picked mine up today. Great Rifle !!! If'n you're thinking about one, ya better move fast as I don't believe Remington is gonna make all that many of 'em.

Flower Child

How much?

Ethan,
I got mine fer $995.00 at our local retail gun dealer.

Flower Child

P.S. It has a 26" Stainless Steel Fluted barrel. Oh Yeah !

Damn,you could build one for that,with a real stock....................

Party pooper. :-)
T

Not pissing in the punch,just musing aloud.

My 700 love is deep,but $1K offers many options......................

I would surmise one of those options is the 257 Roy vice the 264 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ?

Build price isn't a function of the chambering,assuming no boltface mods are required,etc.

No secret I prefer the 257Wby,but the 264Win Faction could build a very fine example for $1K,especially aboard a 700.....................

Well Fellas,
At my age life is too short to sit around building rifles instead of shooting them. It's bad enough that I spend most of my time reloading for them but what with the price of factory "yuppie ammo" and "golden whizzum" bullets, it's the only way a fella who really likes to burn ammo shooting things can afford this sport. $1K don't buy near enough ammo to keep me entertained very long but for a good rifle, it's a bargain. Perhaps now that I have given you my perspective you'll grasp the concept that the time you get to enjoy shooting is important too and that there are some of us (me included) who just plain love to shoot a gun fer any reason that might grab us at the moment.

Flower Child

If I hadn't sworn off the big green over a customer service deal about 6 years ago I'd already have one... I can still faintly recognize that bitter taste in the back of my throat.

I think I'll build something similar via Pac Nor and M77 instead... hopefully it feeds and fires ok, as there's no way I can afford $10k to have it slicked-up... maybe I'll get lucky? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I can have a rifle built in a week.

That end result will balance how I wish,have an LOP that suits me,in a stock style of my fancy,it'll be twisted per my whim,throated to maximize the application,foul little and bughole to boot.

Explain to me the concessions,I'm all ears?

Someone is having a very good day,should they surmise they are getting more joy outta shooting,than I...................

How many gunsmiths have every caliber barrel blank, in every twist, in every contour in stock... How many gunsmiths have every reamer with different throat dimensions in stock.. How many smiths have every McMillin in every color for any action in stock?
Damn Stick, either your smith has bottomless pockets and inventorys everything to suit your whim or you're pretty easy to please !!!

In a week ???

Hey Stick,
The answer to your query is easy. I don't build rifles. Don't know how. Don't care ta learn neither. I SHOOT RIFLES. Reload'n is as far as I go and that's only a means to the end of get'n enough ammo ta shoot. If'n ya like ta tweak things all the time, knock youself out. Me, I just want sumptim that I kin shoot and not be bothered ta see if'n it's all Mil Spec etc. I guess we is just different that way huh?

Flower Child

Oh Yeah,
One other thing. If'n it don't shoot up ta my expectations it gets one trip ta the Gunsmith before it becomes pig iron. I ain't got time ta fool around with sumptim that don't work neither.

Flower Child

I see 'Net Special handles ready to roll,barrel blanks have never been a supply/demand issue for me and it don't take a week of machine time to barrel a rifle(bellieve it or not).

Am not concerned about "every" 'Smith,nor close...................

A typical response,from someone who's only seen one side of the fence.

It's your loot,spend it how you please and use whatever justification coddles your senses.

Having seen both sides of the fence,a build is a natural conclusion for me,with the budget mentioned....................

I just chambered and threaded a barrel, it took a couple of hours. So that's no biggie..

I have a quite a few barrel blanks in my shop. And I also am on pretty good terms with three of the major barrel companies... Even so for the most part they don't have what I need sitting on the shelf... Guess I'm living in the wrong part of the country.. Not hounding you stick, really.. But I build a lot of rifles and if I have all the parts on hand I could assemble a Rem/Krieger, Hart, Shilen/Mcmillin, etc. easily in a week.. But most often I seem to have to wait a spell for parts to show up.. Glad it's so quick for you.. Back to the lathe.

Is a 9" twist .264" bore in Sporter contour on your shelf?


Thought so.........................(grin)

FWIW & FYI

For the sake of passing along possibly useful information, Rem also has avail this year an SPS SS model in .264 w/ a 26" sporter barrel for $600, IIRC. Spec run, untacaloged, 250 pieces. Believe I saw it in a recent Gun List.

As for me, I'll take a .270.

I'd like to see a run of S/S laminate Classics,less sights...................

You kidding? I could like that, but thought I'd read where you had no love for laminates, or actually anything w/ grain.

No, but I have a 6.5x 8 1/2 from Krieger. Would you like to buy it ?? Didn't think so... enough... (grinning)..

But I do have the barrel..

Gees, can't a guy enjoy his new rifle without somebody here chiming in they can do better? Come on!!! Too bad Flower did not mention what scope he is going to mount on it so you can jack him up on that too!

Flower: Enjoy! sounds like a winner and you are enjoying it!
Moe

[color:"blue"]+1 enjoy your new rifle and post some pictures! [/color]

yep, FC just got a new rifle that he has been waiting for, and is rightfully excited about.

Would be nice if we, his cyber buddies, could just share in his excitement. But some apparently feel the need to show to us all that they are smarter, better, more experienced, and could have done it "better"(.....................!)

FC: enjoy your new rifle, most of us are happy for/with you; and please keep us posted on how it performs!

Flower: Sounds like a fun gun. Post some speeds if you get a chance to clock it.

I guess I don't have the connection Stick does. My gun that I had built is at the 1 year mark and still not done. Had to order the barrel which took a couple months. Then my smith is at least 6 months backed up, and then you wait another 4 from McMillan.

I can like laminate,as compared to injection or Walnut.

The LSS Classic would be a ready for bidness,over the counter tool,ala LSS Mountain Rifles...................

Point is/was the .264 blank is hardly a rarity on most 'Smith's shelves and same goes a 264Win reamer.

We'd talk turkey perhaps,if it were a .257" or somethin' else.

6.5's ain't my gig..................

Source the components as you go...pick up a stock or two here and there, an action or two also...pretty soon you can scratch whatever itch ails you, just with what's layin' around....

At least, that's what seems sound to me......

I've had more than a few Sendero's,VSSF's,VS's,VLS's,etc.

All shot nicely,but the Sendero handle is an ergonomic abortion,coupled by poor materials/worksmanship.

The VLS with beavertail,is alotta rifle for the jingle IMHO,but CM Remmie tubes foul worse than their S/S cousins in my experience.

Many are unaware what $1K will yield,now fewer of them folks are oblivious.

No shame in educatin' the masses.........................

The procedure is outlined above.

Lotsa folks carry McMillan handles,ready to roll. Same goes blanks,of all flavors.

Your ignorance,ain't my burden,nor is your 'Smith's tardiness on my shoulders.

When you get to thinkin' about it,a week really ain't that long.

How's the year wait working for you?!!?.................(grin)

And we all sit at your feet, hanging on your every word..........

I have a .25x10 Krieger also, .30 yep, .22 got that to, want a 6mm x 10, I can do that..

My point is, no matter what you carry there's always folks that want another caliber or twist or contour.. So they're not likely to get it assembled in a week.. Aw the hell with it..

You've been led to water,I cain't make you drink.................

Were I a Shoe Store size 18 EEEEE's wouldn't be my bread and butter and I'd not fret Herman Munster's lost revenue.........................

I know it must sound arrogant to you,

but believe me, most of us actually think we can survive without your guidance.

It is what it is. Some like to pay more and wait longer.

Cutting to the chase,always did interest me.

Go buy a Winchester and cheer up,that'll show me.....................

Stick, not a lot of McMillans laying around that are in GAP camo, and to my specific blank. And my smith is very popular which creates backlogs. Just like my taxidermy, only takes me a day to mount a deer, but when you have a pile of them to do it adds up.

The year wait isn't bad, no different than every other gun i don't own yet. I have plenty of toys to keep my busy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Yer right, it is what it is.

Flower child, you ready to sell that rifle yet, I think it's been cleared up that you made a HUGE mistake, no?

Wouldn't be lefty would it?

Who do you think designed GAP camo.(hint)

He stocks his own color scheme,believe it or not.('nother hint)

His stock prices are hard to beat,as well.(bigger hint)

He builds completed rifles veddy veddy fast and veddy veddy well.

Anymore hints required?......................(grin)

'Course it is.

A $200 at most B&C handle,mated to a $750 Factory barreled action.

That was generous on the handle and I believe 750 clams to be pretty steep,for a Factory barreled action.

Slice it and dice it,any way you wish......................

I assume Georgia Precision designed the camo. I was not aware that he stocked them. Even so, my shank diameter and length is not standard on my barrel. I know GP builds a great gun, but I wanted my local smith to do it who also builds good guns and it popular in benchrest circles.

FC,good,tell us about your adventures with the greatest long range deer caliber. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Big Stick,your numbers don't work for me,and I carve my own stocks.But I rather have a rifle built for me,even if I have to wait. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

What number didn't "work".................

An oversized shank is easily accomodated.................

I also could have ordered the stock when I dropped off the parts at my smith, but I wanted an accurate fit so I waited for the barreled action to be done then sent it to McMillan. Hoping to have it back in September.

I like my parts in a pile,then commence....................

If this McMillan is as good as people say, then i might get some more for my other guns. I want a new stock for my 338.

If there was something better,I'd have it.

Stocks are easy,McMillan or bust.

Getcha a piece of the 200 clam USMC trade-in M40A1 handles,with steel bottom metal. Mine had Wichita swivels and matching numbers,as well as being in suprisingly good condition.

That'll defray expense on the next build,by a goodly margin.(hint,hint)..........................

What action do you have to have to fit them? 700 short?

FC, I truly hope you enjoy your new rifle. Great cartridge. I use .264s to kill deer on damage control permits and after shooting everything imaginable I prefer the .264 over anything else. This is talking from hundreds of deer kills. Get some good glass on it and make some noise. reflex264

Short action 700,of course. All M40A1's were shorts.

The Army's M24 on the HS is a 308,built on a long action,for in case someone wishes to convert them to 300Winny. An abortion,in my book.

I poked a 308 LTR in mine.



For conversation,I bought the above rifled used and have less than $700 into the barreled action,stock,bottom metal and Badger 20MOA rail. That includes the Badger bolt knob and the infamous Celt boltmod(which in fairness,is a good thunk and very well done on this example).

Got the Badger standards for $100 and bought the 3.5-10x M3 from Midway for $599.

It digests milsurp ball sourced from J&G Sales for $99 per 1000 rds and it tracks nicely a lil ways past 500yds on the 168SMK BDC cam,from the zero stop.

One of these days I'll load some 155 Scenar's for it,to see what it'll really do.

It typically pays to keep the nose in the wind,as deals routinely abound.

Or you can have the "satisfaction" of paying more...................

Ever shoot the 257Wby 100X/Re-22 combo?

I hear it shines.......................

Thats one combo I haven't tried. The X-Bullets (TSX) ar really coming on strong and I know several guys that are using them. How fast are you getting the 100grs out of the .257 Roy? reflex264

I shoot 73grs in R/P hulls,for 3750-ish fps.

My 24" 25-06AI likes 'em at 3600-ish................

Is your .257 24" as well?

26",twisted 1-10",SAAMI chambered........................

Reflex:

Keep in mind that Barnes is in the process of "recalculating" their inflated BC values. On their website, the BC of the 100X has been reduced from .42 to a more realistic .375. Apparently haven't re-evaluated the 100gr TSX, as it is still listed at .42.

It is what it is.

I am aware of the BC changes which were overdue. The bullets are impressive on game. I hope this doesn't look like a thread hi-jack but I have some 300gr and 350gr TSX's to test in my .416 . They look mean even if they aren't mean but I suspect they will work great. reflex264

Still happily driving the XLC,but the TSX is coming online,via my herd.

Have mainly been launching .284" 120TSX and .308" 168TSX.

Was a smidge dubious at first,fretting terminal affects,but reality negates that initial hunch.

Was afeared the driving bands,were gonna promote petals coming off of the shank.

Hasn't been a factor...................

Hey Stick,
What do ya do fer a living that ya got all of that time ta sit around and screw a rifle together? Around here we is retired and moving a L'il bit slower, but we is still too dang busy doing things ta do anything like that. Maybe next time I want a new rifle, I'll place my order with you instead of Remington. Especially since I kin git mah hearts desire in a weeks time and fer less than $1K.

Flower Child

P.S. Been think'n lately 'bout a 40/378 fer shoot'n all the dang rabbits that is git'n in mah garden. Whatcha think we might be able ta do together in a weeks time?

Not to mention his 21,000 posts on an on-line message board...sounds like a keyboard cowboy to me.

[color:"blue"] +1

My grandpappy taught me if you can't say anthing nice-don't say anything at all. No matter who posts, you always have something bad to say about their choice, whether it be caliber, brand, etc. To my knowledge not one person has said anything about those tacky skull & crossbones you put on your rifles.[/color]

This is the key to getting the work done fast. Hope it wasn't lost in translation.

GB

Stick,the having it built number.I go with having it built,more money,but less of a gamble.

Question is, what did he say that isn't accurate?

I have 'em screwed together.

My Wife reports that I just took delivery of the 280,sourced offa this Board. It was $750 to my doorstep. (LINK). I reckon there's a chance I was ripped off and that it "won't shoot",but I like the odds. The blueprint strikes me as familiar.

Gave 20yrs of my Life to the chainsaw,traded that for a job that grants 26wks of a year. I reckon it a fair trade.

After having used the 378 as my main rifle for a spell and then driving a 30-378 for a shorter time,I think I'm done with any 378 incarnations. Had headspace issues on the MK5 378 and the TRG-S is/was a POS. I can like the capacity of the Roy's biggest 375,but finding a suitable donor is a chore.

Went 338Ultra and never glanced in the rearview mirror.

The bitch with the 40,or anything bigger than .375" is the lack of affordable play boolits. So I always stopped at the 375 bore,be it 375H&H,375H&H Ackley Improved or the aforementioned 378.

LS&B was always good about blowing out Hornady 270SP "blems" for dirt cheap and I found them a viable source for quality practice. High volume was my 378's undoing.

As mentioned prior,$1K will yield very nice tools,by circumventing the Factory..................

You missed that target.........

Field and Stream is where all my info is sourced.

One day...I'll try hands on....................

Like minds.....


You back in Paradise yet?

I'm off The Slope Tuesday afternoon,will get home Wednesday midday,weather depending. Plan to get soused that night and whittle a coupla hunks.

Thursday,I hope to be skinning a lifesize cape on a Monster,way up in the Alpine. Plan on overnighting.

Field and Stream just had an article,on the prospects and I like the odds......................

I going high this weekend, weather permitting. Only little bastards hanging out low....

To no one in particular

Stick isn't the most tactful or least egotistical guy around, but if you don't think he occasionally knows what he's talking about, you've got another think coming.

On the other hand, a guy with as many opinions on different subjects has must to be right on some of them. (grin)

T

Hell...folks gotta have something to bitch about,I've the shoulders for the burden.

Fluff ain't my gig,cutting to the chase will resolve issues in the least amount of time and I am guilty of thinking highly of myself.

Some wanna pay more for less,some wanna pay more for same. Neither approach,much appeals to me.

Glass is the best place to get hosed,but as we've seen,one can get bent over on a rifle as well.

Field and Stream had an article.................(grin)

You obviously haven't seen all of his kill pictures . . .

I understand that and I'm not really feeling a need to defend you per se, but some people tune you out because of your attitude (and/or mannerisms) when in fact, as I said, you are not always wrong.

On the other hand I don't think I could get it done in a week if I did it myself. But I do see the wisdom in stockpiling as you and others have mentioned. It just seems I stockpile the partial mismatches. Like playing solitaire with a deck of fiftyone, as was once said.

Then there's that code I'm still working on. Not asking for help, I'm reasonably certain I'll crack it one day.

T

I write in a way,so folks can think whatever they wanna think. Dipshitts often get riled,those with a clue,get a giggle.

Makes it easy to sort that way.(grin)

'Smith built me one in a day once,but I plead my case well.........................

I'll admit you didn't get that stack of rifles sitting around waiting on them.

T

On the other hand I'm either oblivious to nuance, or you do carry a certain amount of redundancy. Not a bad thing, just redundant.
T

The Internet is a beautiful thing,for someone like me,that lives in the outer reaches of civilization.

In an afternoon,I can source my favorite Hidey Holes,have all componetry assembled and enroute to the Plumber. Stock excluded,as I like to wrench on them.

With nose in the wind and after much R&D I can know which blueprints I like best and can source that componetry at my leisure,while sniffing for deals. Topflight blanks are often $200 a pop,stocks likewise and donors not too much more.

That leaves much wiggle room for sliding in under $1K,with say LW's and mebbe some dies or brass included.

I've zero qualm buying used Leupie and one can often score very well,in that regard. The transition in a Manufacturer's line up can be music to the ears as well. 3.5-10x M1's and 3's were $599 a pop NIB,1" Tactical 3.5-10x 40mm non-A/O's were $399 NIB and I've scored I can't know how many 6x42's for $200-225 a pop,on the used market.

The BR Boys change flavors like I change shorts and one can often score the barrel,dies and brass,for a song. I've got some fabulous stuff,for $200 and under.

'Course a guy can do good or bad,on an NIB rifle purchase too......................

I put much faith in redundant things,that bear fruit.

Most call 'em "trends".

I've learnt my share of expensive lessons...................

thanks. 257 ROY and 264 Win. Mag. are two of my favorites.

Don't discount the "vanilla" 7mmRemmag.

Helluva cartridge...................

Hey, a lot of what he says makes sense to me and I've seen a small portion of his pics. It just doesn't all add up from where I'm sitting, but who really cares what I think...especially considering I wasn't asked...and likewise.

A guy that lives/works in the woods,spends his off-time there and ain't in the Cheese Line,do have opportunity available should he cae to grab it.

Never been fiscally Rich,have never picked [bleep] with the Chickens either and if curious about something,I just simply had one built to R&D. Favorites are easily discerned,because there's duplicates,in various styles/weights/twists.

Making sense is easy,when you don't have to guess.

Had a brace of 264's,but the first 257Wby retired that notion immediately,but that's another Thread....................