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Posted By: 5sdad Soy Sauce - 07/11/22
I've brought this up before and been vilified by those who have never had the opportunity to make the comparison, but I'm dumb enough to try again. Soy sauce smells exactly like the hog barn at the county fair. This is not meant as a criticism, merely and observation. (I happen to think that the smell of the hog barn at the county fair is a nice odor that evokes pleasant memories from the past.) (Not that kind, pervert!)
Posted By: FatCity67 Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
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Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Which soy sauce are you sniffing?
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Currently La Choy, but it isn't exclusive to it.
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
I'm at war with La Choy and other similar fake soy sauces. I steer people away from them at every opportunity.

Were the others you've tried also hydrolyzed soy protein concoctions, rather than naturally brewed?
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Probably - my level of sophistication is sadly primitive.
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Real soy sauce is readily and reasonably had. Kikkoman is in most stores and very reasonably priced.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
I've had "Chico and the Man" before. I did not like it because it pours out of the bottle instead of dropping out. (Remember my level of sophistication?) I will get it again and see if I still have the same olfactory response. I appreciate your input.
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
One time I showed a friend the difference. I had him taste a drop of Kikkoman and then taste a drop of La Choy. When the La Choy hit his tongue he accused me of trying to poison him. grin

I cringe when I read posts about using Dale's or Allegro marinade because they're made mostly of the chemistry set fake soy sauce.
Posted By: robertham1 Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
I was introduced to silver swan soy by some Filipinos to make bistek.

Man was it a intense soy flavor.


That, and datu puti. Delicious
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
I believe it's a fake one.
Posted By: robertham1 Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Originally Posted by mathman
I believe it's a fake one.


Just cause it’s fake doesn’t mean it’s good… silicon for example
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Those would be silicone, and most of the time they're not to my taste either.
Posted By: robertham1 Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Mine either but, work with me here man.

Wasabi > horseradish?

Medium well > medium rare?
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
I'm not a connoisseur, but I gather most "wasabi" out there is fake too.
Posted By: olgrouser Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
After living three years in Japan and another three in Asia it's Kikkoman's. There area number of different kinds of Kikkoman soya sauces including gluten free.

And none remind me of a hog barn. whistle
Posted By: Higginez Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
I like fake boobs that look real, and real boobs that look fake.

Prove me wrong Mathyman....
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Originally Posted by Higginez
I like fake boobs that look real, and real boobs that look fake.

Prove me wrong Mathyman....

They may exist, but likely live in a set of measure zero.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Not an engineer...
Posted By: robertham1 Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Just because something isn’t authentic, doesn’t mean it can’t be appreciated, or, better.

And individual taste is the ultimate barometer.

Sister in law had some lamb chops tonight- the smell alone is gross to me. She loved em, although medium well, so who am I to say they’re gross?
Posted By: Certifiable Re: Soy Sauce - 07/12/22
Gross.
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Posted By: 5sdad Re: Soy Sauce - 07/27/22
Originally Posted by mathman
Real soy sauce is readily and reasonably had. Kikkoman is in most stores and very reasonably priced.


mm - I followed your advice and purchased a bottle of Kikkoman. The difference is amazing. I made stir-fry (pork steak that I grilled and then cut up. carrots, celery, garden green beans, snow peas, green onions, yellow onion, cabbage) using sauce that the wife made using Kikkoman. I also added more to my plated food. Thanks for the advice.
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/27/22
You're very welcome.
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 07/27/22
I'll also say there's a similar situation with commonly available Worcestershire sauces. Skip the Heinz and French's because Lea & Perrins is the one to get.
Posted By: beretzs Re: Soy Sauce - 07/27/22
Originally Posted by mathman
I'll also say there's a similar situation with commonly available Worcestershire sauces. Skip the Heinz and French's because Lea & Perrins is the one to get.

That’s good intel.. thanks MM.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Soy Sauce - 07/28/22
X2 on Kikkoman Naturally Brewed

And

Lea and Perrins W-sauce.

If you like steak sauce, try Lea and Perrins. Not talking W-sauce now,
They make an excellent steak sauce. But it's hard to find.
Posted By: auk1124 Re: Soy Sauce - 07/28/22
I've never had it but there's a fancy ($$) soy sauce made in the US that is fermented in bourbon barrels. The same guy is making Worcestershire sauce too.

https://bourbonbarrelfoods.com/product/bluegrass-soy-sauce/
Posted By: gunzo Re: Soy Sauce - 07/28/22
Originally Posted by mathman
I'll also say there's a similar situation with commonly available Worcestershire sauces. Skip the Heinz and French's because Lea & Perrins is the one to get.

You may be basing this on the fact that the soy in a couple of these is hydrolyzed & the L&P isn't. ?

But otherwise, Frenches is by far my fave, L&P second & if there's only Heinz I'll do without. And, I can taste the diff in some soy's.
Posted By: Snowwolfe Re: Soy Sauce - 07/29/22
We tried this when we were eating at a Japanese restaurant in Vegas a few years. Liked it so much we been buying it ever since.
https://www.amazon.com/Yamasa-Soy-S...;psc=1&ref_=pd_bas_bia_rpt_ba_s_2_sc
Posted By: Morewood Re: Soy Sauce - 07/29/22
I'm surprised you never borrowed that little bottle of Kikkomen from the local chinese restaurant.
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Soy Sauce - 07/29/22
Originally Posted by gunzo
Originally Posted by mathman
I'll also say there's a similar situation with commonly available Worcestershire sauces. Skip the Heinz and French's because Lea & Perrins is the one to get.

You may be basing this on the fact that the soy in a couple of these is hydrolyzed & the L&P isn't. ?

But otherwise, Frenches is by far my fave, L&P second & if there's only Heinz I'll do without. And, I can taste the diff in some soy's.


You couldn't pay me to use French's OR Heinz.
Posted By: jackmountain Re: Soy Sauce - 07/30/22
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by gunzo
Originally Posted by mathman
I'll also say there's a similar situation with commonly available Worcestershire sauces. Skip the Heinz and French's because Lea & Perrins is the one to get.

You may be basing this on the fact that the soy in a couple of these is hydrolyzed & the L&P isn't. ?

But otherwise, Frenches is by far my fave, L&P second & if there's only Heinz I'll do without. And, I can taste the diff in some soy's.


You couldn't pay me to use French's OR Heinz.

I’m not sure I even knew anyone other than Lea & Perrins made Worcestershire sauce.

We always buy kikkoman but the sushi joint we frequent has some in a big glass wind bottle looking container that is flat out the best thing I’ve ever had. It’s like liquid crack.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Soy Sauce - 08/06/22
San-J brand, Tamari Soy Sauce is authentic, made without wheat, and has been around since 1804. It is far better than the regular grocery store brands
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 08/06/22
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
San-J brand, Tamari Soy Sauce is authentic, made without wheat, and has been around since 1804. It is far better than the regular grocery store brands

I appreciate the tip. A grocery store near me carries it and I'll get some when my current bottle runs low.
Posted By: Seefire Re: Soy Sauce - 08/06/22
Made in China. No thank you!
Posted By: Higginez Re: Soy Sauce - 08/06/22
Originally Posted by Seefire
Made in China. No thank you!

WTF?

Seefire?

This should get interesting.
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 08/06/22
From the San J website FAQ:

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Where is your Tamari / Shoyu made?

San-J brews Tamari soy sauces in the USA. We blend it with Tamari made in Japan when necessary for Tamari (Black label), Reduced Sodium Tamari (White label), Tamari Lite 50% Less Sodium. Shoyu is made in Japan.
Posted By: Seefire Re: Soy Sauce - 08/06/22
Originally Posted by Higginez
Originally Posted by Seefire
Made in China. No thank you!

WTF?

Seefire?

This should get interesting.

I don’t follow? Over soy sauce?
Posted By: Seefire Re: Soy Sauce - 08/06/22
Originally Posted by mathman
From the San J website FAQ:

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Where is your Tamari / Shoyu made?

San-J brews Tamari soy sauces in the USA. We blend it with Tamari made in Japan when necessary for Tamari (Black label), Reduced Sodium Tamari (White label), Tamari Lite 50% Less Sodium. Shoyu is made in Japan.

I stand corrected. USA made Chinese sauce
Posted By: Dude270 Re: Soy Sauce - 08/07/22
Originally Posted by Higginez
Originally Posted by Seefire
Made in China. No thank you!

WTF?

Seefire?

This should get interesting.


I've been watching this with interest too, Hig.

Guess we will wait and Sea...
Posted By: Higginez Re: Soy Sauce - 08/07/22
Originally Posted by Dude270
Originally Posted by Higginez
Originally Posted by Seefire
Made in China. No thank you!

WTF?

Seefire?

This should get interesting.


I've been watching this with interest too, Hig.

Guess we will wait and Sea...


Making fun of guys is A-ok with me.

Trying to put words in their mouth?

Meh.

FrudIII would be funny though, so maybe I need to stfu!
Posted By: poboy Re: Soy Sauce - 08/07/22
What brand was (is) the one with the red top bottle ?
I used to keep the bottles for reuse, but no findee.
Unique dispenser.
Posted By: BOWHUNR Re: Soy Sauce - 08/07/22
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Currently La Choy, but it isn't exclusive to it.

That stuff is nasty. If you have to get it at the grocery store then buy Kikoman. Best off getting it at Asian grocery store though.
Posted By: LouisB Re: Soy Sauce - 08/07/22
Looking or authentic, with FAR LESS salt!
Now what fits the list?
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 08/07/22
Define far less. The Kikkoman I have has 38% less than their regular offering. I believe it has less sodium than the lite Kroger fake soy sauce you mentioned in the past.

If you're on severe sodium restriction then there may be foods you simply can't have.
Posted By: deflave Re: Soy Sauce - 08/07/22
Pass the fish sauce and hold the white people...
Posted By: BOWHUNR Re: Soy Sauce - 08/07/22
That stuff tastes like a sweaty Vegas hooker. So I've heard anyway.......
Posted By: mathman Re: Soy Sauce - 08/08/22
I think you clicked on the wrong thread. grin
Posted By: MickinColo Re: Soy Sauce - 08/08/22
I think you're right.
Posted By: deflave Re: Soy Sauce - 08/09/22
Originally Posted by BOWHUNR
That stuff tastes like a sweaty Vegas hooker. So I've heard anyway.......

What's the problem?
Posted By: Jcubed Re: Soy Sauce - 08/09/22
Can't teach taste.
Posted By: Seefire Re: Soy Sauce - 08/09/22
Originally Posted by Higginez
Originally Posted by Dude270
Originally Posted by Higginez
Originally Posted by Seefire
Made in China. No thank you!

WTF?

Seefire?

This should get interesting.


I've been watching this with interest too, Hig.

Guess we will wait and Sea...


Making fun of guys is A-ok with me.

Trying to put words in their mouth?

Meh.

FrudIII would be funny though, so maybe I need to stfu!

Somebody want to clue me in on the joke?
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Soy Sauce - 08/09/22
Originally Posted by deflave
Pass the fish sauce and hold the white people...

I like oyster sauce too.
Posted By: FatCity67 Re: Soy Sauce - 08/09/22
Unagi
Posted By: BOWHUNR Re: Soy Sauce - 08/09/22
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by BOWHUNR
That stuff tastes like a sweaty Vegas hooker. So I've heard anyway.......

What's the problem?

You know, you do have a valid point there....
Posted By: OGB Re: Soy Sauce - 08/19/22
Originally Posted by robertham1
I was introduced to silver swan soy by some Filipinos to make bistek.

Man was it a intense soy flavor.


That, and datu puti. Delicious
Silver Swan and Datu Puti for the win. Can't go back to Lachoy or Kikkoman after having these. Lots of flavor without being a liquid salt lick.
Posted By: atvalaska Re: Soy Sauce - 08/19/22
Dynasty I think it's fake , but tasty
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