Im thinking of putting a new barrel on my first hunting rifle. It’s a Weatherby Mark V 6lug synthetic .30-06. I plan to place it in a McMillan Sako Classic and to install a timney trigger. I know almost nothing about barrel manufactures and who’s the best for the dollar. I checked out Hart just tonight and they seemed reasonable. I was thinking of going with a .280 AI or a 6.5x284. Any advice would be great. Thank you



Kyle

Kyle, do you reload?

Do you already have the barrel Kyle?

I do with my grandfather. He’s got the setup

Only the factory 06 barrel

Oh yeah, or .270 Win. Strong chance of that

Trip the POS Japperby and go 700 for the Win.

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Nope, that rifle means a lot

If schit is a "lot",then you are WELL on your way.

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Done great with it so far

Describe your version of "great",as applied to a 6-lugged Japperby and dog schit COAL latitude...if only as an opening "move".

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Not sure what your deal is. Looking for info on barrels not actions. Not sure just discriminating someone’s rifle is much help.

My "deal is",I simply shoot it all and 6-lugged Japperby's simply suck heavy fhuqking ass and by literal design.

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Twist rate,throat geometry and COAL latitude...matter more than a "smidge".

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You won't get any help from Big Stick. His participation is little more than a way for him to indulge in his narcissism. I recommend the ignore feature.

I recommend that you TRY to find me "mistaken",as you fill out yet another Hurt Feelers Report,to quell your very WELL founded Insecurities. Congratulations?!?

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I just don’t understand the reason behind it

Kyle,

Many have put on more barrels than I; I've had 12 or so installed.

I recommend putting Stick and Boxer (same dude) on ignore. He knows his [bleep] but his language is abusive and he will ridicule any question you have.

As for barrel I recommend you come up with some logic train for choosing your barrel maker.

Do you want a stainless barrel or a chrome moly (i.e. so it can be blued) barrel?

Do you want a cut rifle barrel (some are picky about cut rifled vs button barreled)?

Do you want a hand lapped barrel? Lapping is typically done by high end barrel makers, but not all, i.e. Douglas. And not everyone likes Douglas as a barrel maker.

Do you have a gunsmith to install the barrel? From reading your post above I think you want a gunsmith because you also want stock bedding done and I would want them done at the same time. Or alternately will a barrel maker/installer bed the stock and change the trigger for you?

How heavy do you want the barrel and total rifle weight? Many people choose WAY too heavy a barrel for their first aftermarket barrel.

If, for instance, you decided you want a #2, stainless steel, cut rifled barrel you've eliminated most barrel makers. I think only Rock Creek Barrels (I have 2, both before Mike Rock retired) and Pederson barrels (I've never used them) make thin contour cut rifled barrels.

If, for instance, you decided you want a #2, chrome moly, barrel and you don't care about cut rifling you have more options. Krieger, Brux, Bartlein, Shilen, Lilja, Pac Nor, X-Caliber, and many more make that barrel. But I don't think Hart makes a chrome moly barrel.

So come up with some criteria and then narrow down to the right maker for you. I personally have or have had Brux, Bartlein, Rock Creek, Lilja, Rock Creek, Pac Nor, and Obermeyer barrels. I haven't installed the Obermeyer or Lilja yet. All the others shoot better than I can, so I don't think you'll be disappointed with any of them. You will be disappointed if you get any of them too heavy.

v/r
Joel

Honey,

Stupidity ain't a "reason",it's a Plight and few are Plighteder than you.

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You Drooling CLUELESS Fhuqks are a hoot! Congratulations?!?

Any/all barrels can be contoured. None of which circumvent a schit receiver.

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WTF is Plighteder......haha

Been waiting for your wisdom to resurface.

Kyle I would recommend you listen closely and read between the lines to what is being suggested to you.

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I ignored it myself and went with a Bartlein and I am sending it to a gunsmith that nobody suggested.

And the vicious begins yet again . . . .

Plighteder,is a Technical Term...for Stupidity +P.(grin)

Unfortunately,i've never seen or used a Krieger,so cain't comment.




And all of my rifles are Factory offerings................

Thank you for the info Joel. I’ll think on it more. I’m just starting to learn when it comes to custom work.

I mis typed before, its actually a bartlein. Gonna get screwed onto my 300saum with a saami chamber. I plan on launching 165-168gr TTSX or partitions at all kinds of animals like I did with the last one. 10t, the same as the factory. I don't have any interest in launching the heavy pills, this will do just fine.

A 30 ShamWow squirting the 165/8 TTSX,is simply a heavy recoiling 7-08,that don't shoot as flat,drifts far more,holds less in the belly,is louder and more expensive to shoot...if only for starters.

Rather poor arrangement,both in Theory and Application.

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I know, but I have 400+ pieces of brass and it is the first centerfire I bought. Gonna roll with it. I do have some 7saum brass coming though and that rifle might be a bit different. What actions do you like Stick? I'm looking at a pierce ultralight titanium for a lightweight build. I've read enough to know that the 7mm bullets trump 30 cal all day.

Brass sells...Stupid is forever. Hint.

A Barrett Fieldcraft 7-08 and 180's,smokes it all and then some.

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I guess I will just disappoint you, again. Haha. You know you have an open invitation to come fish here. I did buy my buddy a 7-08 but it wasn't a fieldcraft. Pretty sure he isn't going to shoot 180's out of it either. Most likely 120 BT and 140ttsx

Coal in the stocking buddy, coal in the stocking. <grin>

I catch more fish on "accident",than the "esteemed" do on "purpose". Hint.(grin)

Bullets matter wayyyyyyyy more than headstamps,whether one has an inkling or not. I simply shoot it all and have the luxury of gunning every chambering/bullet,thus far cited.

The less one "knows" and "does"...the "better" everything is.

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I would like to tag along on a steelhead trip sometime. I know that bullets matter more than headstamps but I am not trying to kill critters out at 1K yards. Inside 300 yards is there really a difference among them? I tried to source some 162 AMAX for my 7mm build. You have any you wanna sell to the cause? I'm pretty sure you have a pile of them.

I have a "hunch",that the .545BC 88gr ELD in .224" at 3225fps ala Speedmire,slaps THE schit outta a 7-08 with 120/40's...though I've "only" shot 10's of thousands of same. Hint.

COAL is far friendlier too.

Pardon my shooting it all and then some.

Just saying.

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What good is the 88ELD for shooting a moose? I am talking about real world bullets, not max BC bullets. If I shoot a mountain goat in the neck with a 168ttsx it isn't going to go any further than it would with a 180....I am not doubting your knowledge but does anyone use target bullets for actual hunting?

Only landed (18) Steelhead,the last day I fished. Nothing huge,but a 38" Buck spit a hook.

GOOD bullets have the advantage at muzzle burn distances,to their transonic slip and that Fact is one that everyone loves to overlook. Hint.

Trajectory is Physics,Wind is Voodoo and BC mightily hangs on to velocity,like NOTHING else. Hint.

Inside 300yds(and WELL beyond),I'm giddy with an 18" Krunchenticker and Rifle Gas,with 75gr Hornie HPBT's. The Hornie .224" 75BTHP wears a .395BC and the .284" 120TSX a .349BC. HINT.

I shoot the 162 'Max,BTHP and ELD all. The 180 is THE one and nothing else,even comes close.

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Lotsa Elk have been crushed with 88's. Mooseses are pussies. Pass placement,over a Boob doing her "best". Hint.

A CNS shot,is a CNS shot,no matter the wares. Neck shots are a POOR percentage affair,no matter the wares.

I enjoy your "critiquing" wares you've never even fhuqking seen,let alone used!

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Like I said, I'd like to tag along one day to fish steelhead with ya. Thanks for the advice Stick, it hasn't fallen on deaf ears and it gives me something to think about.

Got any centerpins?

Everyone wants a piece of the pie. That is OLD "news".(grin)

I fish light and am a GL3 1141-S Slut,wearing a Shimano Coffee Grinder (typically a Stradic 2500 or mebbe 3000).



If Centerpins were worth a fhuqk,I'd simply have a few dozen. Beings they ain't,I've none.

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That was a test....:)

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Certainly was.








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At least we can agree on one thing, shimano's. I beat the hell out of mine and she keeps on ticking. Sedona 5000 that I beat to hell catching coho for a hand troller. We can fish for them here with hand gear over on the other side of the bay, and it works. You ever see a coho smash a sassy shad?

Coho would hit a sheet of soiled toilet paper. We're only allowed 20 a day Subsistence and 6 more for Sport...doubt I've seen much more than 300 landed/bonked/konked in a single morning.(grin)

Crashed multiple Sedona's,have yet to see a Stradic(in any version) bobble and I tend to toss 30# PP on 'em.

Bullets matter wayyyyyyyy more than headstamps.

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You never fail to impress The Stradic is twice the price but I am down with good equipment. Thanks for the tip, ordering one now. My Sedona will be the loana, Haha. Its served me well even when those big bastards grab your fish and take off with it. My freezer is full of coho caught with my [bleep] sedona

All "new" to me.



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Every loomis I have ever had has snapped. Not really a fan. I like my temple forks though.

I've "only" 2500+ Steelhead on this GL3 1141-S Loomis alone. Hint.



TFO's are fhuqking Dog Schit in "comparison".

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Maybe they are like the noslers of the rod world, they just get it done and piss you off. Haha

I'm simply afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess. Hint.



Just saying.

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You cork me on that McMillan?

I do not know what a McMillan is....................

I thought so....haha

McMillan boots here..............

I get the reference

Doubt it...........

Nice coho. Those look like you got them out of a river. This is how they look when you pull then straight out of the salt.

I bought a 7mm blank here on the fire - forget the brand name by KArl at Campfeld recommended it, sent it off for chember and love it. saved some $$$ along the way.

Not sure why you'd do a 284 based on a long action, maybe a 6.5/06 AI if you want to go exotic?

I saw a barrel blank...once.



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MUCH prefer 7-08,to my 284's and 6.5-06.

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Look up the definition of narcissism and the reason behind his rude and boorish behavior will be as obvious as a rat turd in a bowl of sugar.

Irather enjoy the heartfelt Whining,from you CLUELESS Dumb Fhuqks. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Pardon my shooting it all,as you park your kchunt perpetually,upon your couch. Hint.

Oooopsie!



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Bless your heart.

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Where’s the pack that bipod makes you look stupid. new normal Craig security gaurdS Lying his fat yapping jaws in a fish post to prove she shoots.

Pardon my having it all and then some,as you set on the sidelines and Whine about your very WELL founded Insecurities. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING.

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Hop on a different thread if you can’t be helpful.

You remain at the mercy of your "means","abilities" and "comprehension" and do NOT slight the magnitude of that fhuqking humor. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING.

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Am I supposed to be impressed or something, you’re getting ignored

It's your Imagination,simply Pretend with it as you MUST. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING.

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I would like the rifle to be less than 8 closer to 7lbs scoped with a VX3i 3.5-10. Possible fluting of the barrel. No more than 24in barrel. I’m guessing a featherwieght or mountain taper is the way to go, maybe a step heavier, not sure.

The action sucks and you are 100% fhuqking CLUELESS. In fairness,the scope sucks too. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING.

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Why does it still show up that this kid big stick keeps commenting.

You poor poor(literally) STUPID Fhuqk!

I'm crying I'm laughing soooooooooo fhuqking hard!!! Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING.

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He's short on everything except chromosomes and he got one extra of those.

Being an internet bully makes him feel taller and validates his existence to himself.

SuperKchunt,

I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that all you can do is Whine. Hint. Congratulations?!?

You CLUELESS Fhuqks are a hoot!

Bless your heart for TRYING!

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Makes sense. Might have little PP syndrome. So is there any real reason a 6.5x284 wouldn’t work?

That said, building a custom gun from a 700 will be a lot easier than using the rifle you have. Why not keep the '06 as is and build another in a different chambering?

Way more options for aftermarket trinkets.

What were the "odds" of CLUELESS Fhuqks,waxing eloquent on their Man Lust Fantasies? Hint. Congratulations?!?

You are in sooooooooo fhuqking far over your pointy fhuqking head,that it is plum amazing and the ONLY reason it's fhuqking Hilarious...is because you are doing your BEST. Hint.

Bless your heart for TRYING.

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SuperKchunt,

Your sheer and utter CLUELESSNESS,never fhuqking disappoints,in it's magnificant grandeur. Hint. Congratulations?!?

There is no "difficultry" associated with said receiver,they are just schitty,due mechanical design.

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Bless your heart for TRYING.

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I’d probably go with a Winchester action if anything else. Had a bad taste for anything 700. Mostly because of little experience and that they make a lot of cheaply made rifles now. Maybe I’ll come around eventually

He’s still commenting? This kid

Your Stupidity,is the "gift' that keeps on giving. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING!

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I would talk with Redneck on this site about what you are wanting as he can do wonders on the Model 70 action. He is doing a project for me presently.

I might do that. I only have one model 70 on hand. I bought it in 2017 before I became a member and discovered all the different makes as far as when and where they were produced. It’s an RMEF BACO in .300 win mag. Smooth as glass but nobody seems to like them.

Your Stupidity,is the "gift" that keeps on giving. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING!

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I’m assuming the child is spewing more nonsense and gibberish? I find it weird that it still pops up that he posts on here when I have him on ignore.

It's your Imagination,simply Pretend with it as you MUST. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING.

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Hey I got an idea guys!!!!
Why don't ya all go look at the BRNO mauser thread I started and give a brother some advice.
From my pics and description of it.

Wanting to know if I should scratch the fugging itch and get it????

Might be something constructive some of you guys can do instead of having a keyboard war.

Hammer the liberal socialist Democrats on the general forum instead
Them mutha fuggas need the heat rounds on their azz,s .

Agreed. 450 doesn’t sound bad if it’s a proven action. But then again, I don’t know much in detail

Your Stupidity,is the "gift" that keeps on giving. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Bless your heart for TRYING!

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I didn't use the words "difficulty" and/or "mechanical design" , you did. Please re-read above quote. Maybe a reading coach could help with those big, multisyllabic words.

I made the association between "a lot easier" to build on a 700 given the "way more options for aftermarket trinkets" for 700s. I'm sorry that you weren't able to piece together those two simple thoughts and figure it out. Being stupid is hard sometimes, isn't it?

Bless your heart for TRYING.

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SuperKchunt,

Someone who "knows" as "much" as you,is always going to be best served by asking questions...rather than giving "answers". Hint. Congratulations?!?

Do tell about the Long Action aftermarket advantages the 700 has,over the schitty 6-lugged Whetherbee. Spare no fhuqking details and be certain to use all of the Imagination and Pretend you can muster,as you fall well shy of a first fhuqking clue,yet again. HINT.

Your sheer and utter CLUELESSNESS,never fhuqking disappoints,in it's magnificant grandeur.

Bless your heart for TRYING. Hint.

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Once again you miss the simple things that are, for most, easy to understand.

The reference to a long action is yours, not mine. Try again, dum dum.

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SuperKchunt,

I'll feign my GREAT "surprise",that besides being unable to keep pace,you are also a CLUELESS Fhuqk. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Even someone as fhuqking STUPID as you,knows better than try try and cite any rifle "particulars". I wonder why. Hint. LAUGHING!

Bless your heart for TRYING.

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