Hi to all, my question is: "Has anyone had any experience with the 180GR. Woodleigh bullets in the 270 for elk hunting?"

no experience with any 180 out of a 270, but a 150gr partition has worked for me. i'm confident your 180's would work as well.

I don't have any experience with them, sorry.. My curiosity is "why" would you consider them when there are lots of great 150-160 and even 130-140 grain bullets with proven back grounds.

I have a box of the Speer 170 gr rn .270 bullets and just haven't seen a need to load them...

My last years bull, a 5x5 Roosevelts took two 150 Core Lokts that were pass throughs. They worked perfectly.

Unless you already have some Woodleighs handy or a cheap sourse, I doubt they're worth the effort.... My humble $.02

A 130gr partition, and H4831 is like peas and carrots.

Cookie does 130's and I've seen her knock two different elk right off their feet. Something that I've never accomplished with my 30-378.

We do a lot of open country hunting and like to retain a fair amount of speed. That being we tend toward midweight for caliber slugs.

I the rare dark timber instances, then slow and extremely heavy.

I like my peas and carrots short cut though

I agree the 150gr Partition is all you need for elk.

Killed 20+ elk with 130 grn Nosler Ballistic tips! (Collective Gasp!)
Big Bulls,Little bulls and all the rest.
Don't need to Whallop the Hell out of 'em.
Just let the air out of 'em.

.270 with a good 130 grain bullet is close to killing perfection, I shot the first 12 elk of my life with that combo. My .270 shoots 130 grain much better than the 150's. If you want to shoot a 180 grain get a .300 win mag

270 Win. is good stuff.

The 130 grain Partition and the old solid base bullets gave me a boat load of DRT kills on game animals. Okay not a real boat load, but a few dozen..

It works.

Me too.

I have to agree that I don't see a need for a bullet that heavy in a .270 for elk. I've always used 150 grain Partitions but thinking seriously of changing to the 140 grain Accubond. I'm getting some great groups using it and 4831 and I prefer the short cut as well.

180 gr would essentially reduce the 270 to a 30-30. No reason to do that.

Killed my only elk 25 plus years ago with Jacks favorite but was running the 150 grain Partision. Dropped with one thru the lungs at about 250 yards. I put one more into the elk, but it was not needed. I would have no problem using the same combo today. Good hunting, goodshot

LOL

Excellent all around advice and I will use it and stick to my 130's and 140's.

Had a elk steak sandwich at the Woodsmens Field Days and have not looked back since.

Depends on how big the boat is. You'd sink mine.

While haven't tried the 180gr Woodleighs, I have used the 150gr. Partition for my for my first 5 elk starting in 1976, switched to the 30-06 in 1982.
After that I got educated beyond my intelligence (reading gun rags) and tried all sorts of crazy stuff.
I'm sure the 150's still work fine.

..not for nothing but I failed to mention the Swift A Frame 140 gr. (Not to take away from the original thread.) Although it was not a elk that I shot it was a whitetail that was dropped in it's tracks with this bullet. Vertebrae was the kill zone and the animal was killed instantly.

A simple core-lokt will work for a spine shot.

Ruins too much good meat.

I saw my Dad dump a pile of elk with his Winchester 70 pre-64 with 130 grain Sierra bullets, some on a dead run. Did you ever see an elk do a somersault?

Neck vertebrae, no meat thrown out.

Not a elk but a few whitetails.

I can't see the sense in going any heavier than the 160 grain Partition?

I have played with the Woodleighs a little bit and actually shot a black bear last week with one. They are quite accurate out of a Model 700 that I bobbed the barrel on. They make a pretty good short range hammer out of a 270. In all honesty, however, I think they're more a novelty than anything else.

For elk I've been using Barnes 130's and 110's with great results in recent years.

Lotsa great choices for a 270 on an elk hunt.

I've shot a lot of elk with a 270. I always used 150 gr, either Partitions or Speer Hotcores. I could never tell much difference between them for performance.

If a 270 Winchester shooting a 150 grain won't work for you then go use a 338/9.3mm/375 something to kill with. At that point IMO not take baby steps

A 270 should get the dang job done with 130 gr. partitions, let alone 150's

A cup and core 150 no kidding when you could have scared them to death with the Barnes Thriple XYZ bullet?

I've been in several elk camps where hunters used .270 Winchesters, either with 130 grains or 150 grains bullets, both factory and reloads. They killed elk without any problems. I know a number of hunters here in Idaho who use it resulting in great benefit to their freezers. They use the same bullets as above.

The only problem with the .270 Winchester is that it is not a .280 Remington, like mine.

L.W.

Leanwolf, you trouble maker you! Just kidding.
I've used 150 TSX with pretty damn good results.

You can, today, with the ammo shortage, get 270 ammo at Wallys. Try THAT with a 280.

Quite the contrary here. Nothing around but odd ball stuff: plenty of 280 rem on the shelves...Go figure. Guess no one uses it here in this town..

Stick with the 130 or 150 grain bullets you will be fine, 130 grain partitions have done well for me in the past.

Both 130 & 150 bullets have proven themselves. I preferred the 150 because they'll shoot to almost the same point of impact but hit a little harder when they got there.

go with which ever groups the best, they all will work. my 270 favors 140 grain over 130's.

Yea, group size is more important than bullet performance on a 600 pound animal that has a vital zone 12 inches in diameter

....Yeah, some of us get carried away. I've got most of my rifles dialed in so I can take their eye out at 200 yards if I so please ....That is, if I have a nice steady rest anyway

Not anal about it but 3 under a dime will do

I killed my first 6 elk with 130 gr partitions in .270 in the 1970's. Then I bought a light weight .338 Win mag because I got a good deal. I have killed a lot of elk with it but the .270 did just as good. In fact I got a really good deal on a weatherby ultra light weight .270. It will probably be my rifle of choice now with 140 grain accubonds.

I'd use 130gr Partitions or AFrames, if you want to go up in wieht us 150gr Partitions or AFrames.

Don't have any experience with the 180 gr. Woodleigh but I have lots with the .277
180 Barnes Original round nose SP.

Wish they were still making them. My supply is getting low. Love those torpedoes for thick timber hunting.

I've used 150g Partitions for a long time in my 270. 130g Partitions and CoreLokts work as well. I'm planning to try some of the new long range .277 caliber 150g Accubonds for both long range shooting and as potentially my new elk bullet.

Got this years elk with a 140gr Accubond. 150gr partition
were not quit as accurate. I,ll keep trying, but the
Accubond worked great.

HOPEFULLY--- I'll get to use MINE this year in Ark.

I've read the WHOLE thread...obviously the 270 W is good elk medicine. It'd be a whole lot EASIER toting and hunting my SS Lite 270 than heavier guns.

I also have a M 70 Winlite 300 WM that I like and kill WT with just for practice. It'll probably be my backup.

THANKS for this thread.

180 grain 270 bullets? What do you use for fletching?

Just curious (I have an active imagination) as to whether or not they stick out the end of the barrel if you don't seat them down against the flashhole?

Here's a pic of the 180 gr Woodleigh bullet. It's definitely long and would take up a lot of powder space. I just don't see the need for anything heavier than the proven 150.

Good grief! ...and I thought TTSX or Accubonds were long. That pic almost looks like it was Photo-shopped!

I haven't used any as of yet. Just idle thoughts. I did recently load some 140 gr. Swift A Frames with good results on deer sized animals.

Well no one seems to have a problem with 175-180 gr 7mm bullets; or 160 gr 6.5's.....what's wrong with a 180 gr .277?

Woodleigh claims 1/10 twist is fine if anyone has asked. Didn't catch the barrel length though.

Most all readers don't or will not ever use them . I use 160 one time an didn't show me much I belive like said a great 150 gr would be tops in my 270 thanks

I think it would make a great bullet for elk. 180gr PP SN SD.334 BC.513, effective velocity 1900-3000 length 1.391

From Woodleigh load data.
Woodleigh 270 Win .277� 180gr PP
Powder Type Powder Weight(grains) Velocity (fps)
ADI AR2213SC/H4831SC 47gr 2360
50.5gr 2500

ADI AR2217/H1000 50gr 2405
54gr 2540

Nice~

If you're trying to turn a .270 into a .30-06, why don't you just use a .30-06?


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I was just making fun; but seriously, I don't see any need for them. Not that playing with them wouldn't be fun, but I don't see a need for them that isn't already taken care of.
Maybe for poking brown bears in the rearend...?

It's fine, I know it is not for nothing. ... strictly for my personal references. Always interested in new material like most rifleman and hunters. Something we can all relate too.

The problem is it's a .270

Looks like a lot of bearing surface on that bullet. Interesting.

Very nice bull moose.

His 270 will never be a 30-06. I can run 250's in my 30-06's ...Just sayin..

This. As far as Inam concerned there is no other 270 load

9 elk with a 270 all taken with 150 gr partition. Typical performance and none went more than 40 yards or so

Will this work?

Danged awesome shooting! That's the way it's done right there!

He's off to the right by quite a ways. If he were to shoot 600 yards at something it would be a guaranteed miss (out of the vitals anyway)...Nice group though..

Nothing gets by some people...

Yep That'll do

Dude! You totally missed the bullseye!

Nice shooting! Yeah, that'll work just fine.

Thanks guys I actually have this sighted in with 130 Accubonds, was just trying out the Hybrids and they liked my powder charge..

Hard not to like the 270 Win!

Any of you 270 ers a fan of the 160 partition?

10 days ago I got my cow Elk using a 270 winchester with
150gr Nosler Partitions. I was using 58gr of Norma MRP for
powder. May go back to the 140gr Accubonds I used last year.

I've shot that particular bullet out of a couple of my .270s and it was quite accurate, using book charges of RL-22.

I've never shot any game animals with it but I don't know why it wouldn't work.

That is one of the bullets that I would love to give a whirl outta my 270WSM. Decent BC on that bullet and I think I'd have the ability to run it at a pretty good clip..

I can tell you they work on mule deer never got to try them on elk yet.

That's been my experience. I had my best accuracy with below max charges of RL-22. They didn't like H4831 but I've got some Magpro I try with them this winter. Worked on a mtn goat last month.

A 270 that didnt like H4831? sell it, it'll be nothing but trouble

+1

Where do you find 4831 of any brand? I haven't seen any for a long time and had to totally redo my 300 WSM recipe for hunting season.

Never. It likes H4831 a lot, just not so much with the 160 partitions for some reason.

now I mostly hunt concentrating on elk, but I have used a 270 win loaded with speer 150 grain bullets over a stiff load of h4831, on a few mule deer hunts, and I CERTAINLY FOUND THEY DID THE JOB WELL , in fact I can,t think of a single time anyone in our hunt camp shot a mule deer or an elk, and placed the shot well,with that 270 win ammo that I've loaded like that that for all the guys in our group,that didn,t result in a very fast kill. so I don,t think premium bullets are required.
and some of those elk and deer were shot out at 300 plus yards which is a very long shot where we hunt.
I do most of the reloading for our group and the 270 win has a strong following , so there's usually at least one guy in camp using one every year.

340mag, are you loading the 150 Hot-Cor's?

YES IVE LOADED AND USED THESE FOR DECADES

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000211605

http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=270%20Winchester&Weight=All&type=Rifle
mostly loaded over H4831 or WW760

I load a good many for the guys hunting out of our camp, and while I prefer the 35 whelen with the 250 speers for elk, personally Id have to admit Ive seen a great many mule deer and several elk have been taken with that load and most with a single hit!
don,t get hung up on velocity just get the most accurate load


these are the bullets most of the guys in my elk camp use and I can,t remember single bullet failure

cal .277..speer 150 grain
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000211605

cal .30...speer 200 grain
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000212211

cal .338 hornady 250 grain
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/76...iameter-250-grain-spire-point-box-of-100

cal .358 .speer 250 grain
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000212453

cal .375 hornady 270 grain
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/93...diameter-270-grain-spire-point-box-of-50

cal .458 remington 405 grain.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/16...rnment-458-diameter-405-grain-soft-point

Thanks for all the info, 340.

to the OP I'm a fan of all things .270 so please try the 180's and let us know how they shoot/work....

Mike

I've been waiting to reload a box and give them a try but have been too busy to do so. My reloading bench is not together in one piece at the time which leaves me without any means to do the work. In the middle of building a house so most of my items are in storage. Thought maybe someone had some input on the bullet anyhow.

yes, good info 340 mag. Appreciated

Well drat during hunting season too!

Mike

what is, "drat" Mike?