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Posted By: ironeagle_84 What is your method? - 01/21/15
When you clean your AR, where do you clean?

Do you completely disassemble the bolt?

If you were to do a complete cleaning, where do you grease/lubricate? Is it safe to tear down your bolt and lube the gas rings? Honest questions. My brothers AR is FILTHY and needs a good scrub.

Is this a good lube to use?

Mil-Comm TW25B
Posted By: Formidilosus Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
I don't. Unless to remove sand or other foreign debris, they get cleaned when the barrel gets replaced. If needed due to the above, pull the BCG out separate the bolt, spray everything down with brake cleaner, wipe quickly if necessary, lube with wheel bearing grease and reassemble.


Properly built AR's will go thousands and thousands of rounds without cleaning as long as they are lubed.


Somewhere just over (maybe just under) 3k rounds without cleaning-

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4k-4.5k, would have to look to be sure, but same/same. No cleaning just lube.

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Both work guns, both ran without issue until the barrels were replaced.
Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
I usually clean mine once a year, just because. I bring all my guns to the parts washer at work and do it there.

I scrub out the upper, pour some parts cleaner down the barrel and push a patch down it. I disassemble the BCG and scrub it and replace the spring in the bolt. Then I dry it all out with compressed air and lube it.

I use Mobil1 for oil.

I haven't heard of the stuff you linked, but for $53 / 8 oz. it better be made out of bald eagle feathers and unicorn tears.
Posted By: FAIR_CHASE Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
I get the unicorn tears but wouldn't the bald eagle feathers possibly jam the action?
Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
The fish in their diet increases the viscosity coefficient of the lubricity.
Posted By: rost495 Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
same as others.... CLP is still what I use for lube... I'm stubborn but it works...

I've shot with folks taht have shot out barrels easily without major cleaning.
Posted By: ironeagle_84 Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
Thanks guys.

Is it safe to lube the gas rings in the BCG though?
Posted By: noKnees Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
I am sure my AR's are the cleanest weapons I own, I clean them the same way I cleaned my 16 in the service 30 years ago. Bolts apart and all carbon removed and oiled before they go back in the safe.

LSA is the only lube you'll ever need. You can get a quart here for $8.00 and the can will last a lifetime. While the whizbang lubricants may work, their cost is criminal. When considering alternative lubricants like wheel bearing grease or motor oil, ask yourself why it's called wheel bearing grease or motor oil before you put it on your rifle.
Posted By: rost495 Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
Originally Posted by ironeagle_84
Thanks guys.

Is it safe to lube the gas rings in the BCG though?


What I clean every few hundred rounds is pull out the BCG, put a drop in the holes for the rings, wipe it off with a rag, wipe out the inside of the upper, and then put CLP on my finger and wipe it inside the upper, then a drop or so on all contact surfaces of the BCG and spread it then, and put it back together.
I.E, after a range trip, at a minimum, I'll pull the BCG, make sure the bolt is clean and lubed, hose out the inside of the barrel extension with some brake clean or shooters choice to insure it's free of grit, and that everything is well lubed when I put it back together. Generally I'll run a couple of patched down the barrel as well, but usually they don't take much to come clean.
Posted By: Yondering Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
Agree, they don't need nearly as much cleaning as some claim.

After few range trips I'll usually hose the bolt down with WD-40, then blow it off with compressed air (don't leave it wet on the bolt to dry and gum up). That takes off most of the fouling, with minimal effort. Re-apply some gun oil, and put it back in the receiver again. I don't strip the bolt apart unless it needs repair.

The one part I hate cleaning is the flash hider, after using foaming bore cleaner in the barrel.

Gotta say though, regardless how often it does or doesn't need cleaning, I'd be embarrassed to own a rifle with rust all over it, as shown above.
Posted By: deflave Re: What is your method? - 01/21/15
Originally Posted by ironeagle_84
When you clean your AR, where do you clean?

Do you completely disassemble the bolt?

If you were to do a complete cleaning, where do you grease/lubricate? Is it safe to tear down your bolt and lube the gas rings? Honest questions. My brothers AR is FILTHY and needs a good scrub.

Is this a good lube to use?

Mil-Comm TW25B


Cleaning an AR is just silly.

If you have a few thousand through it, and bump into a parts cleaner, take it apart and throw all that schit in there.

You can lube your ring. It won't hurt anything.

Never clean another person's gear. That's called enabling.

That is all.



Dave

Posted By: rost495 Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by Yondering
Agree, they don't need nearly as much cleaning as some claim.

After few range trips I'll usually hose the bolt down with WD-40, then blow it off with compressed air (don't leave it wet on the bolt to dry and gum up). That takes off most of the fouling, with minimal effort. Re-apply some gun oil, and put it back in the receiver again. I don't strip the bolt apart unless it needs repair.

The one part I hate cleaning is the flash hider, after using foaming bore cleaner in the barrel.

Gotta say though, regardless how often it does or doesn't need cleaning, I'd be embarrassed to own a rifle with rust all over it, as shown above.
That one with a bit of rust on it, probably shoots better than a lot of folks guns... knowing the competition side of it....We had to shoot in rain etc....

I'd much rather worry about how my gun shoots, and who cares what it lookslike.

Looks are for vanity. Vanity doesn't win matches or shoot tiny groups.
Posted By: wareagle700 Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
I use to clean and lube after almost every shooting session. The only thing I do now is add a few drops of oil now and then and run a patch or two down the barrel. Once a year or so I might do a detail cleaning and good barrel cleaning, if I have the time.
Posted By: Yondering Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by rost495

I'd much rather worry about how my gun shoots, and who cares what it lookslike.

Looks are for vanity. Vanity doesn't win matches or shoot tiny groups.


It's not about looks, it's about taking care of your stuff. If it's rusty there, where it wouldn't take half a thought to apply a little gun oil, where else is it rusty?

I don't polish my guns and baby them, but there's a difference between using it hard and outright neglect.
Since using a suppressor with all of the associated crud, I carry a tall can of spray on Rem-Oil and just keep spraying it wet w/o getting it on the bolt face. A shot before shooting last a good while.

When I can't take the grime I strip it like basic training.

Mike
Posted By: Formidilosus Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by Yondering


It's not about looks, it's about taking care of your stuff. If it's rusty there, where it wouldn't take half a thought to apply a little gun oil, where else is it rusty?

I don't polish my guns and baby them, but there's a difference between using it hard and outright neglect.



Ok.



Can you tell us about your hard use with M4's?
Posted By: Take_a_knee Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
I've seen a well-used MARSOC M4 or three and they are rust-free. Just sayin'. They will walk up to you and close YOUR dust cover.
Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by Glocktard
I've seen a well-used MARSOC M4 or three and they are rust-free. Just sayin'. They will walk up to you and close YOUR dust cover.


Sigh
Posted By: Take_a_knee Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by Glocktard
I've seen a well-used Dunkin Donuts M4 or three and they are rust-free, as long as the thin (or is that THICK) blue line doesn't spill jelly all over them.


Fixt it.
Posted By: jimmyp Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
What language was he speaking?
Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Originally Posted by FAIR_CHASE
P.S. Changing your username did not make you any smarter.


Form isn't TAK.


See? Toldja so.
Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by jimmyp
What language was he speaking?


He was speaking Operatorese. You'll usually recognize it by phrases such as "in country", "sandbox", "CONTACT FRONT", "how many burpees can you do", incessant references to MARSOC guys that they met one time and bragging that they get free 5.11 pants to wear to work.

It's not a common language in these parts. In fact, it's rarely heard since a washed up, has been, Icouldthrowafootballoverthatmountain Uncle Rico type guy left recently. He went by several names like TakeAKnee and such, but I think he was really just a glocktard.
Posted By: Take_a_knee Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Originally Posted by jimmyp
What language was he speaking?


He was speaking Operatorese......It's not a common language in these parts.


Sort of like the ability to pull your many chins over a pullup bar, even washed-up old MOFO's can still manage 8-10 or so. Even lardazzes can do burpees, they're just too damn sorry to do so, might throw up that last splurge.

As for cleaning AR's, carb cleaner and paper towels works for me. I keep a bore snake and a GI chamber brush and use them. Pat Rogers has proved Vagisil will keep a carbine running, so most anything wet that ain't H20 will work, some better than others. Oh, Pat was a Marine, before he was a cop, so is it okay to mention him?

Dextron ATF with STP in select places used to keep M60's running, and those could be a challenge. Lewis Awerbuck was a big fan of ATF on pistols. He was a soldier too but since he's dead is it okay to mention him?
Posted By: rost495 Re: What is your method? - 01/22/15
Originally Posted by Yondering
Originally Posted by rost495

I'd much rather worry about how my gun shoots, and who cares what it lookslike.

Looks are for vanity. Vanity doesn't win matches or shoot tiny groups.


It's not about looks, it's about taking care of your stuff. If it's rusty there, where it wouldn't take half a thought to apply a little gun oil, where else is it rusty?

I don't polish my guns and baby them, but there's a difference between using it hard and outright neglect.


Well from my successes in shooting, evidently mine don't have spots of rust where it matters....
Posted By: Sharpsman Re: What is your method? - 02/01/15
The USAAMU issued me a can (Lubriplate) of this in 1960 to service my NM M1 Garands with and it also serviced my NM M14s when we made the transition to that rifle! I have half of that same can left and have serviced all my rifles through this date using it. Doesn't take much....and it's worth the money!

http://www.homelectrical.com/14-oz-...&utm_medium=CSE&utm_campaign=CSE
Posted By: rost495 Re: What is your method? - 02/01/15
I don't care for the gas that lubriplate creates, but it does lube good.

After a few puffs in the face with the wrong wind, I went back to CLP. Still gas, still kinda stinks but not as bad and doesn't seem to get the eyes as bad if it gets around your glasses a bit.
Posted By: bea175 Re: What is your method? - 02/01/15
I clean my AR's just like i do my Bolt rifles, every time i use them . May be a waste of time, but old habits are hard to break.
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