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Posted By: MCMark Savage 219 - 02/18/23
New gun to me. laugh
30-30 and 16 guage.

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Posted By: Mesa Re: Savage 219 - 02/18/23
Have a look at savagesinglehots.com if you don't know it. There's chance your gun came from the factory as a combination set with both barrels! Which Savage plant produced it, Utica or Chicopee Falls?

Neat little guns!
Posted By: Mesa Re: Savage 219 - 02/18/23
Have a look at savagesinglehots.com if you don't know it. There's chance your gun came from the factory as a combination set with both barrels! Which Savage plant produced it, Utica or Chicopee Falls? (looks like the latter from your pic).

Neat little guns!
Posted By: MCMark Re: Savage 219 - 02/18/23
Originally Posted by Mesa
Have a look at savagesinglehots.com if you don't know it. There's chance your gun came from the factory as a combination set with both barrels! Which Savage plant produced it, Utica or Chicopee Falls?

Neat little guns!

From what I see says Utica on the barrel.
Posted By: Nessmuk Re: Savage 219 - 02/18/23
Sweet:)
Posted By: Exchipy Re: Savage 219 - 02/18/23
The Savage 219 can make for a quite capable, lightweight, stalking rifle:

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This pre-war .30-30 was weatherproofed with Black Nitride treatment to its exposed steel parts.
Posted By: Jackson_Handy Re: Savage 219 - 02/18/23
Those are cool old guns
Posted By: MCMark Re: Savage 219 - 02/19/23
Originally Posted by Exchipy
The Savage 219 can make for a quite capable, lightweight, stalking rifle:

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This pre-war .30-30 was weatherproofed with Black Nitride treatment to its exposed steel parts.

Beautiful!
Posted By: Exchipy Re: Savage 219 - 02/19/23
Thank you, sir.
Its good looks are only exceeded by its excellent handling qualities. While I’d prefer a bit lighter trigger pull, no one’s figured out a way to safely get that with the 219’s particular striker layout. Perhaps the later internal hammer versions might allow for that.
Posted By: MCMark Re: Savage 219 - 02/19/23
Originally Posted by Exchipy
Thank you, sir.
Its good looks are only exceeded by its excellent handling qualities. While I’d prefer a bit lighter trigger pull, no one’s figured out a way to safely get that with the 219’s particular striker layout. Perhaps the later internal hammer versions might allow for that.
Yes, basically your rifle is something I'd like to eventually make mine into.
One of my Dream guns is a custom stalking rifle in 7x57, right now I can have a more afforable version. :-)

The barrel mounted sling swivel, where did you find it from?
Posted By: Exchipy Re: Savage 219 - 02/19/23
Originally Posted by MCMark
The barrel mounted sling swivel, where did you find it from?
It’s an Uncle Mikes two piece:

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I would have preferred the one piece full band. But, it wasn’t offered in the correct diameter to position it where I wanted along the barrel. I had the two piece Black Nitride treated along with the rest of the steel parts.

Carefully measure your barrel where you want the band. Then order the closest size band. The two piece does allow for a bit of diameter adjustment.
Posted By: Exchipy Re: Savage 219 - 02/19/23
Be warned: There is no more severe test of patience than disassembling and reassembling a Savage 219. The guts come out far easier than they go back in. Once you learn just how to do it, it gets easier. However, for the first time, you’ll want to have the suicide hot line on speed dial.

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Posted By: Boartuff_ Re: Savage 219 - 02/22/23
Congratulations on your new acquisition. I’ve got one as well but haven’t done anything with it yet. Keep us posted.
Posted By: Boartuff_ Re: Savage 219 - 02/22/23
Originally Posted by Exchipy
The Savage 219 can make for a quite capable, lightweight, stalking rifle:

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This pre-war .30-30 was weatherproofed with Black Nitride treatment to its exposed steel parts.
The black nitride really sets this off. Great idea. You certainly have some awesome single shots.
Posted By: Exchipy Re: Savage 219 - 02/22/23
Originally Posted by Boartuff_
Originally Posted by Exchipy
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This pre-war .30-30 was weatherproofed with Black Nitride treatment to its exposed steel parts.
The black nitride really sets this off. Great idea. You certainly have some awesome single shots.
It’s said that Black Nitride treatment makes the steel surface harder than chrome. I’m not able to confirm that, but it sure is hard. Because it is a surface treatment rather than a coating, it doesn’t alter dimensions.
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: Savage 219 - 02/22/23
Congrats! The 219s were very humble, low cost guns, but they had good barrels, and usually shoot very well.
Posted By: MCMark Re: Savage 219 - 02/22/23
Originally Posted by Exchipy
Originally Posted by Boartuff_
Originally Posted by Exchipy
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This pre-war .30-30 was weatherproofed with Black Nitride treatment to its exposed steel parts.
The black nitride really sets this off. Great idea. You certainly have some awesome single shots.
It’s said that Black Nitride treatment makes the steel surface harder than chrome. I’m not able to confirm that, but it sure is hard. Because it is a surface treatment rather than a coating, it doesn’t alter dimensions.

Curious how much the black nitride cost>
Posted By: saddlering Re: Savage 219 - 02/23/23
Would love to find a 219 in 25-20w, never seen one, did own a 220 28 gage! One time.
Posted By: Exchipy Re: Savage 219 - 02/23/23
Originally Posted by MCMark
Curious how much the black nitride cost>
Haven’t done a price check in quite some time. But, last time I did check, a “bunch” of gun parts was Black Nitride treated for $200, and H&M wasn’t particularly fussy about how many guns contributed parts to the bunch, within reason. Check out H&M Metal Processing of Akron OH online for details.
Posted By: luv2safari Re: Savage 219 - 02/23/23
Originally Posted by saddlering
Would love to find a 219 in 25-20w, never seen one, did own a 220 28 gage! One time.


I wish I had one in 25-20. I could sell it and buy a moderately priced German kiplauff. laugh

Kidding aside, Owen started hunting at 7 with an experienced 220 20ga, just like I did at the same age. We now have 20, 16, and 12 ga barrels each, three receivers, two 30-30 barrels, and I have a Hornet barrel. They handle and shoot well, and are a lot of fun.

One 30-30 has a peep sight, one has open sights, and the Hornet is scoped.
Posted By: MCMark Re: Savage 219 - 02/23/23
Originally Posted by Exchipy
Originally Posted by MCMark
Curious how much the black nitride cost>
Haven’t done a price check in quite some time. But, last time I did check, a “bunch” of gun parts was Black Nitride treated for $200, and H&M wasn’t particularly fussy about how many guns contributed parts to the bunch, within reason. Check out H&M Metal Processing of Akron OH online for details.
Good to know! I'm up in Canada so might have to see what available here.
Posted By: MCMark Re: Savage 219 - 02/23/23
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by saddlering
Would love to find a 219 in 25-20w, never seen one, did own a 220 28 gage! One time.


I wish I had one in 25-20. I could sell it and buy a moderately priced German kiplauff. laugh

Kidding aside, Owen started hunting at 7 with an experienced 220 20ga, just like I did at the same age. We now have 20, 16, and 12 ga barrels each, three receivers, two 30-30 barrels, and I have a Hornet barrel. They handle and shoot well, and are a lot of fun.

One 30-30 has a peep sight, one has open sights, and the Hornet is scoped.

25-20 would be a cool one! Read that it's a good small game round, just finding brass would be a pain.
22 Hornet, that's one I'd like to eventually find, My Dad has a couple rifles and plenty of brass.
Posted By: Jackson_Handy Re: Savage 219 - 02/23/23
A 25-35 would be cool. Doubt they were ever chambered in that though
Posted By: MCMark Re: Savage 219 - 02/24/23
They were chambered in 25-20, think guys modified the chamber slightly to get to 25-35?
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Savage 219 - 02/24/23
I had an older 220 .410. It had been nicely restored by someone and only cost $145. That older model however, had no draw bar, so it cocked when you pushed the lever. Even after I lubed it, it was really tight and I was seriously concerned that that lever might bend or even break in time. Sold it to some other old timer with a soft spot for that model.

Bought a few Henrys since, and while lacking the history, they work flawlessly and have very nice walnut. Someone that likes that type and wants one without the search, could do worse. The new .360s should show up before long for those in straight wall states.
Posted By: Loggah Re: Savage 219 - 02/24/23
Ive collected 3 with numerous barrels, 2-30-30 ,2 25-20, 1 32-20, 2- 410 1- 20ga 1- 16ga 1 12 ga. They are pretty neat mix and match guns!! Its nice that the rifle barrels are 26" I never had a hornet ,but keep my eyes open for one. smile
Posted By: Nessmuk Re: Savage 219 - 02/25/23
Loggah, if your twins ever want a home of their own...
Posted By: Txtrout Re: Savage 219 - 02/28/23
I have always thought they are cool looking. I have one in 22 Hornet, one in ,30-30 and one in 16 gauge. So have an extra 22 Hornet barrel that came with the 30-30.

The 30-30 shots fine, but needs a major restoration.
Posted By: Nessmuk Re: Savage 219 - 02/28/23
I am looking for barrels.
Posted By: Txtrout Re: Savage 219 - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by Exchipy
The Savage 219 can make for a quite capable, lightweight, stalking rifle:

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This pre-war .30-30 was weatherproofed with Black Nitride treatment to its exposed steel parts.


Quick question, chippy.

What leapold scope is that?

Thank you!
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Savage 219 - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by Txtrout
Originally Posted by Exchipy
The Savage 219 can make for a quite capable, lightweight, stalking rifle:

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This pre-war .30-30 was weatherproofed with Black Nitride treatment to its exposed steel parts.


Quick question, chippy.

What leapold scope is that?

Thank you!

And while you’re up, what does it weigh?
Posted By: Exchipy Re: Savage 219 - 10/16/23
Originally Posted by Txtrout
Originally Posted by Exchipy
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Quick question, chippy.
What leapold scope is that?
Thank you!
The scope is a Leupold VX-2, 1-4x20, purchased new maybe five years ago. It’s in Weaver’s lowest 1” rings on Weaver #43 bases, the lowest setup I could find at the time. It’s also about the lowest which still allows just enough thumb access to the action lever. Absolutely no chance my thumb could even possibly miss that lever.
Posted By: Exchipy Re: Savage 219 - 10/16/23
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Originally Posted by Pappy348
And while you’re up, what does it weigh?
As I recall, the completed rifle was too light for my bathroom scale and too heavy for my postal scale. So, I’ll hafta try weighing it with my RCBS trigger pull scale.

When I weighed the trigger pull a few years ago, it was about 6 pounds and requires a pretty hefty squeeze. I expect the scoped rifle will weigh somewhere between 6 and 7 pounds. Now, you’ve got me curious enough to actually find out.

Originally Posted by Txtrout
It weighs 6.5 lbs as pictured.
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Can’t see mine being different enough to matter. So, I’ll accept the weight of Txtrout’s 219 as being the same as mine.
Posted By: Txtrout Re: Savage 219 - 10/17/23
Just to add to this thread. Short story is an early second era Unica 30-30. Good bore. I like Stutzens, so why not. After taking the barrel down to 20" the smith had pity and had his assistant blue the barrel, then drilled and tapped for a scope. Rifle has a nice 3.5 lb trigger. I may try and slow rust blue the action, or just take the easy way out and use some matt durablue. It weighs 6.5 lbs as pictured.

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Plan to use this English/Turkish walnut that I have for the new stock. Not fancy, but adequate.

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I may even try to make it an 30-30 AI if I like it. Also have an extra 22H for this set too. Perhaps a 219 AI Wasp? Not that I need it.

I have another almost pristine first era 30-30 219 with the matching 20 gauge barrel too. I see a 125 grain spire point with some CFE 223 pushing about 2700fps out of that 26" barrel.

Also have a dedicated 219 Hornet too...

I plan to slowly switch out all of the wood for butt stock with cheek piece's and some with higher/mild Monte Carlo stocks. Maybe even some ebony tips.
Posted By: Txtrout Re: Savage 219 - 10/17/23
I was able to weigh a 219 rifle with a full length barrel, sans scope and it was 6.5 lbs.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Savage 219 - 10/17/23
Thanks.
Posted By: Txtrout Re: Savage 219 - 10/18/23
Pappy,

The info I found stated that the Leapold VX 1-4 x20mm weighs 8.1 oz.
Posted By: 450yukon Re: Savage 219 - 10/26/23
Were the 219's ever made with nickel plating? I have one in 25-20 that has a plated receiver, plated barrel and what I would call above standard checkered wood.
Just wondering if and when Savage might have done this, or if at all. I've never mastered the photo thing here! But I’m learning.
It was made in Utica, 26” barrel, cocks on the lever and came with the old Weaver scope. 219 on right receiver and a very nice 4lb trigger.

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Posted By: 160user Re: Savage 219 - 10/28/23
Originally Posted by Pappy348
I had an older 220 .410. It had been nicely restored by someone and only cost $145. That older model however, had no draw bar, so it cocked when you pushed the lever. Even after I lubed it, it was really tight and I was seriously concerned that that lever might bend or even break in time. Sold it to some other old timer with a soft spot for that model.

Bought a few Henrys since, and while lacking the history, they work flawlessly and have very nice walnut. Someone that likes that type and wants one without the search, could do worse. The new .360s should show up before long for those in straight wall states.

I have a nice old original 220 in 410 and it is like carrying a broomstick through the woods.
Posted By: luv2safari Re: Savage 219 - 10/28/23
Originally Posted by 450yukon
Were the 219's ever made with nickel plating? I have one in 25-20 that has a plated receiver, plated barrel and what I would call above standard checkered wood.
Just wondering if and when Savage might have done this, or if at all. I've never mastered the photo thing here! But I’m learning.
It was made in Utica, 26” barrel, cocks on the lever and came with the old Weaver scope. 219 on right receiver and a very nice 4lb trigger.

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That looks like someone's labor of love.
Posted By: Txtrout Re: Savage 219 - 10/28/23
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Originally Posted by 450yukon
Were the 219's ever made with nickel plating? I have one in 25-20 that has a plated receiver, plated barrel and what I would call above standard checkered wood.
Just wondering if and when Savage might have done this, or if at all. I've never mastered the photo thing here! But I’m learning.
It was made in Utica, 26” barrel, cocks on the lever and came with the old Weaver scope. 219 on right receiver and a very nice 4lb trigger.

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That looks like someone's labor of love.


Nice rifle and someone's project.
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