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Posted By: HeavyLoad 70 featherweight - 10/07/19
I may have a chance to purchase a pre 64 featherweight in 308. It’s a 6 digit serial number 243###. Some blueing wear on the barrel and the typical dings on the stock. Definitely not a safe queen but in good shape for a rifle over 65 years old. It has a weaver k4 scope on it. What would be the going average value for this rifle?
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 10/08/19
You dont say whether it has a recoil pad or aluminum butt plate. Any extra holes in the receiver anywhere? Does it havs the original sights, or has someone sweated the front sight off? Low comb or montecarlo? Does it still have the original sling swivels. Even the old leather military type sling adds value. Need a little more info on the rifle to throw out any kind of value estimate.
Posted By: handwerk Re: 70 featherweight - 10/08/19
in general from the info you've given...$900-$1000
Posted By: gunswizard Re: 70 featherweight - 10/08/19
More info is needed as sighted in the above posts to give an accurate estimation of value. But from what is posted I'd say the rifle as described would be more like $700 - $900, the lower value if it were a straight comb and/or had a recoil pad and the higher if it were a MC and had the aluminum buttplate and minimal wear on the alloy bottom metal. Missing/incorrect sights/swivels would lower the value too, lotsa factors to take into account when assigning a value to pre'64 M/70's.
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 10/08/19
It has the monte carlo stock, aluminum buttplate, has the swivels, original sights but missing the front hood. No extra holes anywhere.
And I’m guessing they are 1in12 twist?
All so what would the K4 scope be valued at?
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 10/08/19
And maybe the question I’m looking for is what are they selling for, more then the blue book value.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 10/08/19
Originally Posted by HeavyLoad
And maybe the question I’m looking for is what are they selling for, more then the blue book value.

If you find the right person, you could possibly get $1,100.00. Based on your description. Pictures would help.
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 10/08/19
If I buy it I’ll post pictures, definitely not gonna pay $1100.
Posted By: Poconojack Re: 70 featherweight - 10/08/19

Originally Posted by HeavyLoad
If I buy it I’ll post pictures, definitely not gonna pay $1100.


If you can buy the gun for less, you’ve done well.
Posted By: VarmintGuy Re: 70 featherweight - 10/09/19
Heavyload: For your comparison.
Into my local gun shop yesterday afternoon came a Winchester pre-64 Model 70 Featherweight in caliber 30/06.
It was "on consignment" at $775.00!
It was all original and in fairly good shape with the exceptions it was missing the front sight hood and had been glass bedded.
The stock was rather nice and the bluing was in the 95% range.
I inspected the bore with my bore inspection tool and it was near perfect with only the slightest wear (rounding!) of the leades to the rifling (hadn't been shot much at all!).
The serial number was 466,XXX indicating manufacture in late January 1,960.
It was gone (sold) this morning when I braved a blizzard to go re-inspect it.
It sold in less than a "business day" (8 hours!)!
I hope this helps some.
Good luck in your dealing.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Posted By: crshelton Re: 70 featherweight - 10/09/19
Heavyload,
Much depends on whether you are planning to hunt with the rifle or just look at it (collector). I hunt mine and have for 40+ years. The buck below was shot in Texas just last week.

If planning to hunt with it, some past changes may actually improve the hunting shooting performance. For instance, my M70 FW .308 was made in 1953 and has always been a sub minute of angle shooter.
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I assure you that my few changes have been improvements. They were:
Free float barrel
Arkansas stone trigger to slicker- than- snot (no resistance feel at all) - set to 4 pounds with Lyman trigger gauge
Use good recoil pad to reduce light-gun recoil and assure perfect stock fit.
MagnaPort to eliminate muzzle jump + minor recoil reduction.

Nope, mine is not for sale and will not be until I pass on and maybe not then as my son will inherit it.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: 70 featherweight - 10/10/19
I have FWT's in 243 and 270, both all original as far as I can tell, got into both of em for less than a grand each, I wasn't looking when they came along, guess just in the right place at the right time.
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 10/10/19
I’m more then likely going to buy it in a couple weeks. I’m going on vacation for 9 days next week. His price is $750. I already bought a S&W 39-2 from him last weekend with 3 original mags & an older Elesi pancake holster. $450.
It’s a buddy’s dad that I’ve known for over 40 years. He just turned 90 last month.
I’ve been reading that some of the older featherweight rifles had accuracy troubles. I shot this rifle but never on paper. Steel targets at 200yards.
I’ll probably replace the weaver k-4 with a more modern scope just for shooting purposes and put the weaver on the shelf.
Are the 308’s 1-12 twist?
Posted By: 22WRF Re: 70 featherweight - 10/10/19
Given the circumstances I would feel compelled to pay him more than he is asking!!!
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 10/10/19
Yea well that’s not gonna happen, thanks for the advice though.
Believe me between him and his son they have over 250 firearms and I think they would rather see me buy the gun than some stranger.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 10/11/19
Originally Posted by HeavyLoad
I’m more then likely going to buy it in a couple weeks. I’m going on vacation for 9 days next week. His price is $750. I already bought a S&W 39-2 from him last weekend with 3 original mags & an older Elesi pancake holster. $450.
It’s a buddy’s dad that I’ve known for over 40 years. He just turned 90 last month.
I’ve been reading that some of the older featherweight rifles had accuracy troubles. I shot this rifle but never on paper. Steel targets at 200yards.
I’ll probably replace the weaver k-4 with a more modern scope just for shooting purposes and put the weaver on the shelf.
Are the 308’s 1-12 twist?


I don't know where you heard that. That's not even remotely what I've seen. Every featherweight rifle I've seen has shot lights out. Even before bedding. After bedding and freefloating, groups shrank even more: Thus, much more consistent shooters, with far less flyers and wondering zeros...
Posted By: gunnut308 Re: 70 featherweight - 10/11/19
Seems like I read somewhere that all the Pre64 30cals were 1-10 twist.
Ive had several fwts and all were dandy shooters.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: 70 featherweight - 10/11/19
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by HeavyLoad
I’m more then likely going to buy it in a couple weeks. I’m going on vacation for 9 days next week. His price is $750. I already bought a S&W 39-2 from him last weekend with 3 original mags & an older Elesi pancake holster. $450.
It’s a buddy’s dad that I’ve known for over 40 years. He just turned 90 last month.
I’ve been reading that some of the older featherweight rifles had accuracy troubles. I shot this rifle but never on paper. Steel targets at 200yards.
I’ll probably replace the weaver k-4 with a more modern scope just for shooting purposes and put the weaver on the shelf.
Are the 308’s 1-12 twist?


I don't know where you heard that. That's not even remotely what I've seen. Every featherweight rifle I've seen has shot lights out. Even before bedding. After bedding and freefloating, groups shrank even more: Thus, much more consistent shooters, with far less flyers and wondering zeros...


I know that 1.5" six shot group I sent you with my little FWT 243 could be greatly reduced with bedding and a good trigger job, that rifle has the heaviest trigger I've ever felt.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 10/11/19
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by HeavyLoad
I’m more then likely going to buy it in a couple weeks. I’m going on vacation for 9 days next week. His price is $750. I already bought a S&W 39-2 from him last weekend with 3 original mags & an older Elesi pancake holster. $450.
It’s a buddy’s dad that I’ve known for over 40 years. He just turned 90 last month.
I’ve been reading that some of the older featherweight rifles had accuracy troubles. I shot this rifle but never on paper. Steel targets at 200yards.
I’ll probably replace the weaver k-4 with a more modern scope just for shooting purposes and put the weaver on the shelf.
Are the 308’s 1-12 twist?


I don't know where you heard that. That's not even remotely what I've seen. Every featherweight rifle I've seen has shot lights out. Even before bedding. After bedding and freefloating, groups shrank even more: Thus, much more consistent shooters, with far less flyers and wondering zeros...


I know that 1.5" six shot group I sent you with my little FWT 243 could be greatly reduced with bedding and a good trigger job, that rifle has the heaviest trigger I've ever felt.


Yeah, that's a sweet rifle gunner. Sorry to hear about that trigger. I have all of mine very nicely adjusted to 2.5 pounds... Those pre 64 triggers can damn near be fine tuned to perfection as far as a hunting rifle trigger is concerned... That new 300WBY's trigger was already fine tuned by someone that knew what they were doing. I didn't even have to touch that one buddy. I was slightly disappointed it was not like a virgin, but oh well, at least they did it like I would have done it... grin
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 10/11/19
Originally Posted by HeavyLoad
I’m more then likely going to buy it in a couple weeks. I’m going on vacation for 9 days next week. His price is $750. I already bought a S&W 39-2 from him last weekend with 3 original mags & an older Elesi pancake holster. $450.
It’s a buddy’s dad that I’ve known for over 40 years. He just turned 90 last month.
I’ve been reading that some of the older featherweight rifles had accuracy troubles. I shot this rifle but never on paper. Steel targets at 200yards.
I’ll probably replace the weaver k-4 with a more modern scope just for shooting purposes and put the weaver on the shelf.
Are the 308’s 1-12 twist?


Yes, the 308 win featherweight had the 4 groove 1 in 12 twist barrel.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: 70 featherweight - 10/11/19
Thanks Buddy, if you were closer id bring that little rifle over with a blank check and let you work her over good. smile
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 10/12/19
Originally Posted by gunner500
Thanks Buddy, if you were closer id bring that little rifle over with a blank check and let you work her over good. smile

For you, I'd do it for free. Good thing you don't live closer, we'd probably get into too much trouble.... grin
Posted By: gunner500 Re: 70 featherweight - 10/15/19
LOL, Thanks Buddy, and YES, Lt. Kenda may have done an episode or three on us. cool
Posted By: VarmintGuy Re: 70 featherweight - 10/24/19
Heavyload: After the pre-64 Model 70 Featherweight I mentioned in my previous post was "sold" it is now back on the rack for sale.
Apparently it was put on lay-a-way but something changed.
F.Y.I.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 10/26/19
The op is still not giving any specifics on the rifle in question. Pretty worthless thread without more info. Like a dog chasing its tail...
Posted By: Slavek Re: 70 featherweight - 10/26/19
Originally Posted by HeavyLoad
I may have a chance to purchase a pre 64 featherweight in 308. It’s a 6 digit serial number 243###. Some blueing wear on the barrel and the typical dings on the stock. Definitely not a safe queen but in good shape for a rifle over 65 years old. It has a weaver k4 scope on it. What would be the going average value for this rifle?


Assuming no modifications $749.25. The scope assuming working order $75.
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 10/26/19
Bsa what more specifics do you want? I thought I described it pretty good in my 1st couple of posts.
I was over his house today bullshitting and I’m definitely going to buy it by the end of the year. Once I do I will update with pics.
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 10/26/19
Pre64
Serial #243###
Not a safe queen/pretty good condition
Monte Carlo stock
Original sights, missing front hood
Aluminum butt plate
Sling swivels
No extra holes
Weaver K4 scope
All original
I’ve been doing a little research and I do know it’s worth more than $750.
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 12/11/19
The Eagle finally landed. Sorry about the picture format but for now that’s the best I can do.
Scuff marks on the end of the barrel and minor scars on the stock. And missing the front sight hood. Other then that it’s in pretty good shape, everything is tight.
Any info on the scope would be appreciated, Weaver K4-1 micro-trac
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 12/11/19
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Posted By: AKwolverine Re: 70 featherweight - 12/11/19
Looks like you did well ...
Posted By: handwerk Re: 70 featherweight - 12/11/19
yep nice purchase!
Posted By: GBOB Re: 70 featherweight - 12/11/19
Nice rig for sure.
And a steal at that!!
Posted By: beretzs Re: 70 featherweight - 12/11/19
Looks like you did real well with that one! Nice score!
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Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 12/11/19
I’m thinking of replacing the scope with something more modern. Maybe a Leupold 3.5x10
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 12/13/19
Nice rifle heavyload, you did very well. I recently saw a 1953 308 fwt with a vintage scope in original condition. I could have bought it for $900.00, but the condition was not as good as your rifle. If it were as nice as yours, i probably would have given $1,000.00 for it.
Posted By: winchester70 Re: 70 featherweight - 12/13/19
Very well done. Congrats.
Posted By: Pugs Re: 70 featherweight - 12/13/19
Originally Posted by HeavyLoad
The Eagle finally landed. Sorry about the picture format but for now that’s the best I can do.
Scuff marks on the end of the barrel and minor scars on the stock. And missing the front sight hood. Other then that it’s in pretty good shape, everything is tight.
Any info on the scope would be appreciated, Weaver K4-1 micro-trac


Nicely done. If you want a sight hood reproductions are available for less than $10 from Numrich

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/294560D
Posted By: model70man Re: 70 featherweight - 12/14/19
I have never owned or seen a pre-64 Model 70 shoot poor groups.
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 12/14/19
Thank you everyone.
I was looking at sight hoods and would like to get an original. Is their any difference between the repo & originals?
The weaver scope looks good on the rifle but my eyes need something more modern.
I remember shooting this rifle back in the day, but I can’t wait to work up a good load with it.
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 12/14/19
Buy an original. That rifle deserves it, not a damn tacky repro.
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 12/15/19
I found an original hood, payed dearly though. $60 shipped
Posted By: bsa1917hunter Re: 70 featherweight - 12/15/19
My gunsmith always said, "its a 40 dollar bill".
Posted By: Limapapa Re: 70 featherweight - 12/19/19
Really nice shape! I'd call that a 95% gun overall and well worth 900-1000. I really like the darker finish on the stock. You did very well. I have two, one in 3006 and the other a 270. I have a L 2.5-8 on one and a new L Freedom 2-7 on the other. I like the smaller scope size and weight on the fwt rifles. Both weighed 6-15 bare and are right at 8 with scope and mounts. I use a 3-9 or 3-5-10 on my standard weights. Much heavier gun, can handle a bigger, heavier scope. Enjoy!
Posted By: HeavyLoad Re: 70 featherweight - 12/19/19
It’s probably not 95%, theirs some wear on the last 1/3 of the barrel that you can’t really see in the pics. And scars on the stock.
I thought about a smaller scope but I’ve read their may not be enough scope adjustment for proper eye relief.
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