$1,000.

Any takers?


EXPERT GRADE .30-06 RIFLES will feature a NEW, Commercial-Production Stock Set and a NEW Commercial-Production barrel chambered for .30-06 Springfield. Bore condition will be “as new”, and barrels will gauge “as new”.

EXPERT308 GRADE RIFLES will feature a NEW, Commercial-Production Stock Set and a NEW Commercial-Production barrel chambered for .308 Winchester. Bore condition will be “as new”, and barrels will gauge “as new”.

The balance of parts on EXPERT Grade Rifles will match all service grade criteria, showing less wear and a better cosmetic appearance than a Field or Rack Grade. Cosmetic condition will be good to very good. Rifle finish may vary, exhibiting normal wear and/or color variation among the metal parts. May have some visible pitting, frosting, or other minor cosmetic deformity on the metal parts.

Manufacturer selection guarantees only that the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. The barrel, receiver, and other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers; and may also be of commercial origin with original, re-parkerized, or other commercial finish.




GR

They sound like sweet rifles. Many of the guys at my club have m1 garands. They bring them to our military rifle shoots. I love seeing them, as they are very iconic and a piece of American history. Most of them were purchased through the CMP. Some very well used rifles and some new looking. Yours sound like great specimens and perfect for shooting.

Sounds like my Special Grade. How do they differ from that, or did they simply change the nomenclature?

The Special Rack grade shows a $750 value. They are out of everything else. With the Expert it sounds like pretty much everything is new except the receiver, bolt, and internal parts. It appears they are as new as the CMP can make them.

kwg

Huh. Like I said, sounds like my Special Grade. New Criterion barrel and new stock and stock furniture, original receiver and internals.

I am seriously considering it. My past dealings with CMP have been very good.

Any takers?



EXPERT GRADE .30-06 RIFLES will feature a NEW, Commercial-Production Stock Set and a NEW Commercial-Production barrel chambered for .30-06 Springfield. Bore condition will be “as new”, and barrels will gauge “as new”.

EXPERT308 GRADE RIFLES will feature a NEW, Commercial-Production Stock Set and a NEW Commercial-Production barrel chambered for .308 Winchester. Bore condition will be “as new”, and barrels will gauge “as new”.

The balance of parts on EXPERT Grade Rifles will match all service grade criteria, showing less wear and a better cosmetic appearance than a Field or Rack Grade. Cosmetic condition will be good to very good. Rifle finish may vary, exhibiting normal wear and/or color variation among the metal parts. May have some visible pitting, frosting, or other minor cosmetic deformity on the metal parts.

Manufacturer selection guarantees only that the receiver was produced by the manufacturer listed. The barrel, receiver, and other parts may have been produced by other manufacturers; and may also be of commercial origin with original, re-parkerized, or other commercial finish.




GR[/quote]

I've bought a bunch of guns from the CMP. The good ole days are over for them I'm afraid.

I bought a nice M1 from them in 2005. I was surprised it was that long ago when I looked it up. I wanted to own a piece of that history. They rated it as Collector Grade and I paid $1400 for it. An inflation calculator puts that as just shy of $2000 today. I’m glad to have it.

Probably is.

May be a new class simply because they will have lots more of them than Service Grades available, so much so that they have broadened their Bbl. outsourcing beyond Criterion.

Here's one in the wild:






GR

Nice shooters. Use the heck out of it to save wear on a collectible.

Got a '55 SA 5.8M from the Greek returns that came out w/ as-new metal and bore, and has become my shooter.

Late SA USGI stock set and shoots ~ 2.5 MOA.



The rest are rather interesting, for this or that...




GR

Is this a good deal at $1k?

Under $1K won't buy much of a Garand otherwise these days. Stuff under a thousand are the ones rode hard and put away wet: oil soaked stocks, washed out throats and worn muzzles, etc.

This new expert grade is essentially a special grade without the repark, so you will have a variance in the shade/color of parts vs a nice uniform color.

For a shooter grade M1, you can't go wrong for $1k. For a collectable variant, you're better off with the all USGI Grades,(ie. Rack, Field, Service, Correct, Collector). Years ago, they offered a select grade, which was their top shooter grade rifle, as New USGI Barrel and a tight fitting USGI stock. Wait times for those rifles were 1-2yrs.

SD

Thank you for the perspective, gnoahhh and SD.

garands are another one of my adictions. try and build one for 1000 and it ain't gonna happen.
these rebuilds while not having any military collector's appeal, are good shooters.
if you go and price some of the worn out pieces of crap circulating and those prices, 1000bucks is a good deal.

I'm of the opinion that an M1 is a piece of history, and it should have the opportunity to tell you about its self. I've got an IHC, correct, that has the marks in the butt where a user pressed the tips of the bullets in the enbloc clip into the wood in several spots to seat them prior to loading. Another where there are dings from hitting web gear whild carrying on a sling. good story tellers those Garands.

Yeah, they speak of duty and preservation of freedom. The perfect icon of Liberty. Everyone should own at least one Garand in his life, and learn about it (and from it).

I had 6 and traded 3 for AR's. 10 years later that was a real stupid mistake. The ones I traded were the Greek returns so I wasn't out a ton of money. But they had the "cool" factor going for them.

kwg

The "Original" Specials were about the same price at $950, the recent "Rack" Specials have had much more pitting on the receivers, and were $750.

I agree - this sounds like a Special in a new title wrapper.

Another point of interest are En Bloc clips.

ammogarand.com has AEC-3 milspec commercial clips for ~ $1/pop.

Rifle won't run (hand chamber only) w/o'em, and 25 will clip up 200 rounds of ammo.

(for when things go bad)



Compared to magazine costs, they are pretty economical.




GR

number of years ago cmp was selling those by the bagful. i think from memory like .20/piece or something like that. i bought a bunch of them trying to get the different manufactures.

i bought one of the greek returns and sent it to a guy in kentucky to refinish it.
the stock looked like a beaver had got a hold of it.
new french bastogne wood, reparked, every part spec'd, douglas match grade barrel in .308 it now both looks and shoots good

During the Greek Returns, when the CMP was sellin' M1 rifles as fast as they could box'em up, En Bloc clips got to be a little scarce.

So, w/ some prodding from the CMP Forum, they contracted Aggressive Engineering for a run of "CMP-3" clips, in 25/ea. boxes, for ~ $20?/pop.

They (AEC-3 clips) got up to ~ $2/pop for a while.

Good to see'em < $1.




GR

I thought I was getting a heck of a deal trading those Greek returns for some Armalite stuff. And, 12 years ago I think it was a fair trade. I wish I would of kept one of those Greek's and had a 308 barrel put on it.

kwg

Glad I got mine when I did. Beautiful HRA that was rebuilt at Anniston. Might have 50 rounds through it. Love those red stocks.

My Garand showed up this week. Special for $750 with new barrel. Looks great and hope to shoot it this weekend. I was on the website and looks like everything is sold out now so I got lucky.

So, are these not criterion barrels?

Think for this high-volume offering - they cast their Bbl. net a little broader than just Criterion.




GR

I ordered my Expert 308 Jan 21 and received it February 22. It’s a May 1944 all Springfield with very, very light pitting on upper leg of the receiver. Now my IHC can get some relief at range time!

Nice. Have you shot it yet?