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Which one for my 'tweener? #1633807 08/26/07
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,793 The Big Country H Hondo64d OP Campfire Tracker
OP Hondo64d Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,793 The Big Country	Looking for a new scope for my medium wieght .308 that I use on everything from paper for load development to clays up to 550 (so far) to deer and pigs. These are the ones I am leaning toward so far... Sightron SIIB 3-12x42AO $319.00 Sightron SII 3.5-10x44SF $449.00 Sightron SII Big Sky 6x42 $299.00 Nikon New Monarch 3-12x42SF $429.00 All of their turrets can be reset to zero, even those with hunting turrets. Am torn between the simplicity and potential increased reliability of the straight 6, and the increased magnification and being able to eliminate parallax (a problem I have recently found in my Conquest). Seems to be many folks that like both brands. What do you think? John If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

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Re: Which one for my 'tweener? Hondo64d #1633814 08/26/07
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Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1	Not sure who is gonna snap first, me or you.......... I'd go for the 6x42 "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? Steelhead #1633848 08/26/07
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VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	Ditto on the 6x42. Very much nice. Otherwise, the 3-12 Big Sky.

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? VAnimrod #1633870 08/26/07
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WGM Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,266 Louisiana	I haven't tried a Sightron yet, nor have I owned a 6x42 ... so my input is based on power range alone (and the assumption that you will be happy with any of the 4 you mentioned) ... I'd go with either of the two SF models ... leaning toward Nikon, only because I've had a couple Nikons and can like them a lot ... -WGM-

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? VAnimrod #1633892 08/26/07
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GregW Campfire Ranger G Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,652 Likes: 3 Coues Country	Originally Posted by VAnimrod Ditto on the 6x42. Very much nice. Otherwise, the 3-12 Big Sky. +2... - Greg Success is found at the intersection of planning, hard work, and stubbornness.

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Re: Which one for my 'tweener? GregW #1634630 08/27/07
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OP Hondo64d Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,793 The Big Country	All votes for the 6x42 so far. Any dissenters? John If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? Hondo64d #1634632 08/27/07
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VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	John; I'll have pics of the 6x42 Big Sky from the user angle up shortly.

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? VAnimrod #1634661 08/27/07
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VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	BTW - just did a quick and dirty comparison between the Big Sky 6x42 and the FX-III 6x42. No appreciable difference in parallal at about 300 yards.

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? VAnimrod #1634673 08/27/07
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VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	Here ya go, pics of the Big Sky low-profile turrets from the user angle (well, almost), and compared to the standard adjustment turrets on the FX-III. BTW - I can't take pics for schit....

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? VAnimrod #1634754 08/27/07
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VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	FWIW, the Sightron low-profile target turrets measure 3/8" high from the body of the scope to the top of the turret. The FX-III adjustment knobs measure a fat 3/16" when measured in the same fashion.

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Re: Which one for my 'tweener? VAnimrod #1634802 08/27/07
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WGM Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,266 Louisiana	Just musing aloud, I'm still amazed that Leupold has not yet designed and implemented a hunter's low-pro turret yet ... Nikon has been doing it a while now ... Sightron is on board ... I don't know who else, but I'm sure there are others ... Even Zeiss has their 'target turrets' reasonably low. I know many Leupold fanatics have no issues with the standard target turrets and M1's ... and really, I don't either ... but it would just be too damn nice if they made some lower ones that looked/functioned more appropriately for a 'traditional' hunting rig ... Sean ... after seeing those pictures, I'm starting to see why you're so excited with the scope ... it's a handsome scope, and you've said it's function and glass is very good ... price seems very good too ... perhaps it's time to give them a try ... -WGM-

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? WGM #1634805 08/27/07
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VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	WGM, You still aren't on the 6x42 wagon yet, either, are you? I'd say the SII Big Sky 6x42, would be a very good intro to both worlds....

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? VAnimrod #1634810 08/27/07
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Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1	I don't know, these T2's on a VX-II ain't bad, although I don't get the hang-up about turret height... "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? Steelhead #1634814 08/27/07
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VAnimrod Campfire Kahuna V Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 61,130 gone	Can't say as I dislike the Leuppie set-up. The FX-III is VERY likely to get turrets.... Still, I can like the Sightron set up much.

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? Steelhead #1634815 08/27/07
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WGM Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,266 Louisiana	Scott ... that scope is very nice ... I'm very close to ordering one up ... but again, just wondering when they're gonna do the same (essentially) for the standard hunting scopes ... Leupold loves to set the standard for things, but they missed the boat on this one ... but I'll let that slide if they just hurry and catch up with the others re: low pro hunters turrets ... (grin) -WGM-

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? WGM #1634819 08/27/07
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Steelhead Campfire Oracle S Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1	I'm guessing that extra 1/4" of turret really [bleep] you up in a deer stand?!!!???! "Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? VAnimrod #1634821 08/27/07
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WGM Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,266 Louisiana	Originally Posted by VAnimrod You still aren't on the 6x42 wagon yet, either, are you? No ... not on it yet ... only reason really being that I want/need more magnification when doing load development ... I realize that I should just get a good target scope to move from rifle to rifle when working up loads, and then slap on a 6x42 when I'm done ... but I'm just not there yet... I'm sure that within the next year or so I'll get a 6x42 and give it a shot ... (pun intended) ... it's been hard, I'll admit, to pass on all the Leupold 6x42's that have been going for about $250 in the classifieds here lately ... very hard, in fact ... but I'm sure there will be more that show up, soon enough ... (grin) -WGM-

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? Steelhead #1634825 08/27/07
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WGM Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,266 Louisiana	Originally Posted by Steelhead I'm guessing that extra 1/4" of turret really [bleep] you up in a deer stand?!!!???! more than I'd care to admit ... (grin) seriously for a moment ... it's more of an aesthetic thing for me ... Ultimately, it doesn't bother me to have the standard height turrets ... just that I'd prefer to have shorter ones ... the standard offerings ain't stopped me yet from having turrets added to my hunting scopes ... -WGM-

Re: Which one for my 'tweener? WGM #1635743 08/27/07
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Re: Which one for my 'tweener? VAnimrod #1636463 08/27/07
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OP Hondo64d Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,793 The Big Country	Those were just the sort of pictures I was hoping to see. Many thanks VA. John If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

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