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Most of the towns around me have passed ordinances that prohibit hunting on private land without the owner's written permission.

Since many of the landowners will simply not grant permission to hunt on their property for various reasons (i.e. they are anti-hunting, they have accident liability concerns, selfishness etc.), I have developed what I call the "Robin Hood Approach."

I just take my bow and hunt their property anyhow!

In some cases (if the property is big enough) I hang a relatively cheap tree stand that I'm willing to sacrifice if necessary, but most of the time (after I have identified a high deer traffic location), I simply sneak onto the property before daylight, set up a natural ground blind and ambush them if I can.

I only take high kill probability shots (25 yards or less) where I can be assured of a quick recovery and most of the time I remove the deer from the property before gutting it.

Since a first time offense for trespassing here is a verbal warning and a $100 fine thereafter, the financial risk associated with using the Robin Hood Approach is minimal.

BTW...........I never hunt a piece of property that the landowner hunts himself nor will I ever encroach on another hunter's stand location under any circumstances.

I only select properties that normally go unused for months at a time and where the landowner has absolutely no idea I'm even out there.

What's that expression again...."no harm, no foul"?

I thing it applies very well here.......but as always............. YMMV.

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nemesis, please tell my you are jokeing. You don't really trespass to hunt do you?

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Well, "Robin Hood", I can't say I condone your actions, but I understand them.

In the next county west of my home town you'll find the town of Green Lake, the lakeshore and surrounding area of which is populated by a small number of Wisconsin residents and large number of Illinois residents and refugees. Not that I have anything against Illinoisans in general, but the wealthy Chicago variety tend to be liberal and anti-hunting. So there's a lot of posted land, and what land isn't posted is pretty hard to get permission to hunt. As a result this area has one of the highest whitetail population densities in the state: over 200 deer per square mile. The population continues to increase, and without adequate hunting pressure, it's only a matter of time 'til there are so many deer that epidemic disease (probably CWD) sets in.

I know a couple of guys who are quietly working on reducing that population without permission, Robin Head Approach style. I could not in conscience join them, but on the other hand I would never betray their activities to the authorities.


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Trespass laws are fairly plain and trump etiquette. Either you is or you ain't. I'm not saying you can't dump a load or three in proximity to the offending stand, just do it on your side if it bugs you. Rock music from a boom box might do the trick as well. Dancing girls, beer fahts...whatever. His wife in curlers?

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I don't like line hunters and fortunately I have only one neighbor who is bad about it. There is just something wrong to me about putting up a stand that looks into somebody elses place.

I put mine at least 75 yards or so away from any common fence and site them so I can't see directly into other properties.

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Originally Posted by rrroae
Found a treestand right on the border(+/- 10 ft) of my property while doing some scouting this morning. Don't know the neighbors because it's a church camp and I'm not particularly worked up over it since I have plenty of land to hunt but was curious to hear what folks think about line hunters and if there is some understood distance one should keep from bordering properties.


You need to go out and get a couple bags of party balloons. Blow them up and tie them all over the place on your side of the property. I saw it done once and we still talk about it.


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I hunted a place a few years ago near Junction Texas. 400 acres. It had 9-10 blinds facing out towards the property lines. This was a pay for the weekend type place and they had shot about 40 bucks so far that season. I am sure their neighbors wern't happy but what can you do. I shot a very nice 8 point buck during my weekend there, but never went back.

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Originally Posted by rrroae
Found a treestand right on the border(+/- 10 ft) of my property while doing some scouting this morning. Don't know the neighbors because it's a church camp and I'm not particularly worked up over it since I have plenty of land to hunt but was curious to hear what folks think about line hunters and if there is some understood distance one should keep from bordering properties.


You need to go out and get a couple bags of party balloons. Blow them up and tie them all over the place on your side of the property. I saw it done once and we still talk about it.


And the purpose of those balloons would be.... ?

Oh, right, I forgot. Deer are frightened by blue tape. Blue balloons must scare 'em off, too!
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Poacher.

Originally Posted by nemesis
Most of the towns around me have passed ordinances that prohibit hunting on private land without the owner's written permission.

Since many of the landowners will simply not grant permission to hunt on their property for various reasons (i.e. they are anti-hunting, they have accident liability concerns, selfishness etc.), I have developed what I call the "Robin Hood Approach."

I just take my bow and hunt their property anyhow!

In some cases (if the property is big enough) I hang a relatively cheap tree stand that I'm willing to sacrifice if necessary, but most of the time (after I have identified a high deer traffic location), I simply sneak onto the property before daylight, set up a natural ground blind and ambush them if I can.

I only take high kill probability shots (25 yards or less) where I can be assured of a quick recovery and most of the time I remove the deer from the property before gutting it.

Since a first time offense for trespassing here is a verbal warning and a $100 fine thereafter, the financial risk associated with using the Robin Hood Approach is minimal.

BTW...........I never hunt a piece of property that the landowner hunts himself nor will I ever encroach on another hunter's stand location under any circumstances.

I only select properties that normally go unused for months at a time and where the landowner has absolutely no idea I'm even out there.

What's that expression again...."no harm, no foul"?

I thing it applies very well here.......but as always............. YMMV.

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What's that expression again...."no harm, no foul"?


One day you're going to be caught by someone who doesn't like your line of reasoning, and he may feel something more than a verbal warning is what you need.

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We had that problem a few years ago. We purchased 50yds of orange small mess rubber fence that they use for snow fence sometimes and I think construction sites may use it. We took a staple gun and stapled two 25yd strips one above the other and started about 3 ft from the ground. If needed it can easily be moved. This guy had no trees on his property and set up his blind a couple of feet from the line facing my friends property.. It solved the problem and he removed his blind.

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Originally Posted by hornet7722

Well, if you bothered to read the post, my problem was not that he was hunting the line, but rather that he was hunting/shooting in MY DIRECTION! But I guess to some that's no big deal. And if fact just [bleep] is just another city dweller that only comes around durning hunting season. The rest of the year they are nowhere to be found - like when there is work to be done on the trails, or feed lots, or helping out the neighbors that are older, but I am sure that you wouldn't understgand that.


Tried to take a neutral tone...you read more in to it.

I mentioned the safety issues...shooting your direction would certainly be included in that. Having a window in his blind facing your land doesn't mean he's going to be shooting on your land. If he is doing that, then of course that's an issue.

It's clear from the other things you raise in that post, that the hunting blind on the property line isn't really your biggest issue with said hunter.

Good luck with it...I suspect by the things you say in your post, you may not be good at dealing with these things and people.


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I found a ground blind one year about 10 yards off the property line. I left a note with my contact info, permission to hop the fence if he needed while tracking a wounded or retrieving a dead deer, a few words informing him there was another ground blind 100 yards west of him and please don't shoot that direction, and a good luck wish.

Fine with me. Nary a problem. Saw him over there later that week and waved a hello. He waved back.


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Originally Posted by Archerhunter
I found a ground blind one year about 10 yards off the property line. I left a note with my contact info, permission to hop the fence if he needed while tracking a wounded or retrieving a dead deer, a few words informing him there was another ground blind 100 yards west of him and please don't shoot that direction, and a good luck wish.

Fine with me. Nary a problem. Saw him over there later that week and waved a hello. He waved back.


Good way to handle matters IMHO.


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Originally Posted by Archerhunter
I found a ground blind one year about 10 yards off the property line. I left a note with my contact info, permission to hop the fence if he needed while tracking a wounded or retrieving a dead deer, a few words informing him there was another ground blind 100 yards west of him and please don't shoot that direction, and a good luck wish.

Fine with me. Nary a problem. Saw him over there later that week and waved a hello. He waved back.



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I agree.....unlike "Robin Hood" who would make a fine corpse and enrich the ground near a stump hole.


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Originally Posted by WGM
While I can't know exactly what tone of voice and/or body language you were using when you said

Originally Posted by hornet7722
"I informed the neighbors friend that the 10x10 building with the smoke stack is a deer blind that I hunt from and that shots comming in my general direction will result in return fire!"


I can only assume that the way you wrote it means that you were rather forceful when you delivered that message. That said, I can understand how the guy receiving the message may have been pissed, but that doesn't excuse him (or whomever it was) in any way from firing shots into your stand.

Now that I have that out of the way, I'm just wondering if you considered that the window in the neighboring stand you were/are so upset with was/is merely there to observe game that might be headed toward the neighboring property from your direction? And even further, that they might be able to tell when someone was/is hunting your stand - and of course if/when you're not there at the same time, a shot in that direction wouldn't be 'dangerous'?

As to the original question about etiquette, I guess I would prefer a neighbor not set up a stand on their property line so close to a stand that I already had set up there, but it's not like I have any say about it, and definitely wouldn't want anyone trying to tell me where/how I might erect a stand on my property. I guess that means that if it happens, so be it ... just let it go ... move your own stand if you don't like it. It's not like you have any 'right' to the stand location just because yours was there first.

Again, I realize we're talking "etiquette" and not "rights" ... but I think it would be just as poor a display of etiquette to try to tell a neighbor that they shouldn't put a stand in a certain location on their own property - and that's regardless of whether it's the property owner who's hunting it, or some "city slicker" that only shows up during hunting season.


Wish I had seen this earlier...pretty much my thoughts exactly, and well stated.


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Around here, our farm and the neighbors, are all open productive farmland with fencerows as the property lines, naturally the deer follow and bed down in the fencerows, so everybody hunts the property lines.

We know and communicate regularly though about where we will be sitting or walking, and co-ordinate our hunting to try to be the most effective at moving the deer.

Except for one property owner, he is not a farmer and has moved in from the city. Nice guy to talk and he hunts, but he plastered his property lines with posted signs,and I get a bit nervous about the directions he shoots. We will see how it works out.


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A few years ago, it was challenged here in GA. A plantation owner, who conducted guided hunts, or whatever they were over open fields, complained to the game warden about non-paying hunters hunting on his property line.

The game warden told the plantation owner that he didn't care if the other hunters put a tree stand in a tree right next to the property line, as long at the did not shoot a deer on the plantations owner's property.

Waiting until the deer was on the 'good' side of the line was okay with the warden.

The only time I ever did it, not near the plantation, but in another area, the deer came from our side of the line and walked about 20 feet in front of me, stopping to look at me.

The brush was so think that I didn't see the deer until it crossed onto the posted property. I sat and watched it leisurely walk on off.

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