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I almost don't want to read or look at these 3x-tucky or Samtucky reports. Just adds fuel to the desire. I can tell by the paper that you guys were wringing things. He's got to be more than thrilled with the 375y group. And form loads?!

What powder are you using for the final loads?

Junior and I went to the hills today. Didn't bust any caps. He got to spend more time behind the wheel of the 3/4-ton. He's only 7 years old so he's not ready for Baja 1000, but getting better at keeping it between the ditches grin

We also shot our bows. I hate the ffukking release and training wheels. Tempted to skip archery and do general rifle bull elk on the coast.

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4th,

It was a good time to lean on the Fixed [bleep]'s erector and really see WTF...as the rifle/ammo had been proven. So the huge swings were a great way to bolster confidence,which is the warmest of fuzzies. I've been flogging on all of mine right proper and none of 'em have been suspect,but a guy likes to see such huge inputs bear fruit. Gunned it out to the 1050yd line and 50gr FF Zombies required more than a leetle Engleesh in Today's wind.(grin) Had a blast. The Montucky 223 is simply one hell of a [bleep] platform and I've a couple/few boltguns to compare/contrast. [bleep] things are straight up Amazin'.

He's stocked up on BLC-2,which is of course a burning rate neighbor of '335,so nice thangs will reliably happen as defaults. I'm on the last of my GOOD '2200 stash(touch slower than '335) and I've shot away 127 of the 128 pounds I had. Am well invested in '335 myself,so ain't frettin' much.

Had to put a new clutch in Sister's crummy the other day,as it's got 160,000+ miles and she's teaching all the neighbor kids to drive a stick and it wears 33-10.50's with stock gears...so it was a matter of time before someone got the honor.

I don't much miss The Rifle Elk Circus,but it was hardly a feat to have one tied to a tree,when one's bidness was killing trees.(grin) Nice to have that long Archery Season and The Rut,though chasing them in the heat is a drag. I'm prolly done for good on Archery,other than now and again to give someone a reminder on how I haven't forgot how to shoot a bow. I've stuck alotta arrows,in alotta fish and for some reason,that don't ever get old.(grin)

Next time home,'Buggy should have his Hartucky back from the Plumber,wearing a 1-8" length/contour dupe in 223AI. Thinkin' it'll be an epic 223AI Montucky Rut this year.

Again.(grin)

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Boxer,

Glad to hear about H335 since it's been showing up locally.

You ain't kidding about coast-bull-rifle season being a circus. I'll go archery Snake River this year and probably shuttle the younger fellas in the coastrange for general rifle.

This is a favorite shooting area on the coast, and pics don't do it justice. I know you've trounced around this stuff, but figured I'd let others see where jungle and wide-open exist at the same time. This terrain kicks my ass... steep+, loose, and rugged. Some high canopies mixed in, and opportunities to shoot as far as you can see at times. Probably not the best place for a traditional leever.

FFukkers that work the timber and call this their office are some tough SOB's... like one convoluted hell hole.

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105 Amax blew up on a deer shoulder with no penetration to vitals at ~150 yards, fired from 6mm Remington.

Local friend had a similar thing happen with 162 Amax fired from a 280 on a deer. No penetration to vitals.

Several others on the 'Fire have noted failures to penetrate from Amaxs as well.

Too many good game bullets out there to deal with a maybe bullet for hunting. I'll sure use 'em for other stuff, but not big game.

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Isn't the Amax a target bullet?


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Isn't the Amax a target bullet?



No, but what is the definition of a "target bullet"? What do you think that the difference is between a "target" copper jacketed, lead cored, plastic tipped AMAX, and a "hunting" copper jacketed, lead cored, plastic tipped SST?

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Just fer schitz n giggles.....

http://www.hornady.com/bullets


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A-MAX�

Designed by match shooters for match shooters. With an ultra-low drag tip, our A-Max match bullets feature an aerodynamic secant ogive that delivers flat trajectories with excellent uniformity and concentricity. Find out more...

Rapid, explosive expansion with limited penetration.

Recommended muzzle velocity range: 2000+ fps.

These bullets are not recommended for hunting.


Whoda' thunkit.

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Thanks GeeDubya. smile


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'goat,

That was really "compelling" Testimony and I rather enjoyed the hilarity. Thanks!

Now as to last Season alone,I only know of (5) Bull Moose killed with 162's and all curiously enough,by 280AI's. The Caribou Bull tally was right at 30,with the same boolit. A dozen Bull Elk with the same boolit,though in fairness,a coupla chamberings but the 280AI had the most. The 162 was used on better than 10 Bears and a schit load of Deer.

The 6.5 140/123 on Bulls,Bucks and Bears in a surprising smattering of chamberings.

The 105'Max toppled Caribou,Elk,Bear and Deer. 243AI having the greatest percentage of use,as chamberings go.

The 75'Max was good for a schit load of Deer,several Bears and a coupla Dall Sheep. 223/223AI/22-250AI

All results were beyond positive(except for the victims) and if I had to speculate,I'd say that all them boolits will be very well represented this Season. Hint. There's also alotta new builds that've been received and gents are eager to spill blood with 'em,so it'll be a goodly smattering of wares counting coup this go 'round. that being said,undoubtedly and as per always...the 162 will be launched more often than not. Funny how it actually works and I mean FUNNY!

Good talk,always a hoot getting your "experience" and feedback.

Laffin'!










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Does Stupidity hurt?!? Figured to give you a question you could answer in the first hand,if only for a [bleep] change. laffin'!

Keep doing your "best"...if only because it is funnier than [bleep].

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"Curiously" enough,ALL Arms Makers have strict warnings about using Handloads and that'll certainly be more than enough to get 'nm Whining all over again. Laffin'!

The only thing she shoots is her mouth and Imagination and she's quick to back same up. Laffin'!

Them who do the least,reliably Whine the most and it's never not hilarious to grant 'em all the slack on the rope,they "think" they can [bleep] handle and then watch the Show.

Seriously funny [bleep] schit!










gee',

It's a hoot,that of all the folks you are quick to quote...it's never you. The Texas Version of everything,is simply [bleep] hilarious!

Laffin'!

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It's all good B.

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One might note that the change in suggested use coincided with the push of certain bullets being used by the military and police...... And that'd not be a guess.


Again I don't get why some think that "hunting" bullets get an extra sprinkling of "killing pixie dust"......

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Originally Posted by Formidilosus



Again I don't get why some think that "hunting" bullets get an extra sprinkling of "killing pixie dust"......



Yeah what do the folks at Hornady know?

and just for the record, I don't load Nosler Ballistic tips at 3,400 fps+ either........

http://www.nosler.com/ballistic-tip

Optimum Performance Velocity:

Minimum: 1800 fps (549 mps)
Maximum: 3200 fps (975 mps)

Ya can lead a guitar to water, but you can't tune a fish....

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Shot placement is paramount and trumps all.




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Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Isn't the Amax a target bullet?



No, but what is the definition of a "target bullet"? What do you think that the difference is between a "target" copper jacketed, lead cored, plastic tipped AMAX, and a "hunting" copper jacketed, lead cored, plastic tipped SST?


Interesting comparison, because the SST is the most disappointing "hunting" bullet I've run across. Simply abysmal performance. Supposedly they've been toughened up recently, though.

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Originally Posted by jeffbird
Shot placement is paramount and trumps all.


Won't argue with that,

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325 WSM, 200 gr. Nosler Accubond started at 2,800 fps +/-

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never fails to leave two holes that leak.


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300 H&H, 180 gr. Barnes TSX


but everything don't always go right.

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So I want a blood trail I can follow in the thickest brush at dark-thirty.

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when things don't go exactly as planned


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and I have to track.


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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Isn't the Amax a target bullet?



No, but what is the definition of a "target bullet"? What do you think that the difference is between a "target" copper jacketed, lead cored, plastic tipped AMAX, and a "hunting" copper jacketed, lead cored, plastic tipped SST?


Interesting comparison, because the SST is the most disappointing "hunting" bullet I've run across. Simply abysmal performance. Supposedly they've been toughened up recently, though.


Loaded the SST's in a 300 WSM back around 2005. Reminded me of the frangible nature of a varmint bullet. Rather explosive IIRC. Have not loaded them since.

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That's been my experience with SSTs as well.

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I never used any SST's or Amax's,nor do I intend too. I'll just stick with Nosler Partitions,Ballistic Tips and Sierra Pro-Hunter and Game Kings.

Do use a 50 gr Vmax in a .222 rem.

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