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frankly, I really appreciate the lack of moderation. I can always put the azzwipes that contribute nothing on ignore.

GG you probably would make a great moderator in a democrat town hall meeting, picking who could talk and who could not talk. Thankfully your not a moderator here or the place would shut down.

Phoughk. Can we just go back to talking about guns? Geez o Pete all' phoughking ready.

I picked up one of the Primary Arms 4-14x44 FFP scopes for a Long Range 308..The Glass is clear/crisp/Bright and it Tracks Perfect..Liked it so well I ordered another...

My Son ordered a SWFA 10X super Chicken at the same Time....The Glass seams to be Clearer and Brighter on the PA.....We put them both in the Freezer for one hour and submerged them in Warm Water the Super Chicken Failed/Fogged. The PA Passed.

Never looked through any of the PA scopes.
Bought one of their 30mm reddots, worked fine.

Emailed the company w a question.....seemed like he wanted me to be the happiest customer.

So..............I'm buying another PA reddot (newer version).

If I have a prob with the new one, I'm confident PA will make things right.
Imported red dot..............OK, I'm not 100% sure it will be problem free.

Confident enough that it's worth the $.

Hell I bought 2 new US built rifle scopes that were bad from the factory. One was replaced, the other fixed. Stuff happens.
I'll give any company one chance to fix their mistake.

Dozen scopes from that manufacturer, 2 bad out of 12 sucks...........but the problematic items were 10 yrs apart.
Once fixed/replaced.............no problems.

Maybe my PA reddot will be fine, maybe it won't. I am sure that PA will stand behind it.
Guy I dealt with was cool, and THAT is what will make me a repeat customer.

Seems to be a pretty decent red dot 30mm on top left of their 1st page on their website w lifetime warranty for your average shooters.

PA.....Has Some of the Best Customer service Period......I have spent Thousands of Bucks with them and on the rare occasion !!!!!! if you have a problem...They will make it more than right.

If you are ok with a heavy duplex reticle, Optics Planet has a VX-1 shotgun scope 1-4 on sale for $179, close to your budget. Still show a few left.

Generally shotgun scopes are set up with a short parallax, like 75 yards,

My understanding is a 75yd zero vs 100 or 150 yd zero eliminates some parallax error close in but makes little difference otherwise until past 300 yards. I have used a shotgun scope on an AR with no issues, always do your homework tho.

Don't do it. Don't ever buy a cheap scope.
That's the path I've been going and I really don't believe I've ever had a good scope. I.e. one that does everything mechanically well:
1) Adjustments - When you put wind or elevation on it, it adjusts properly
2) Focus
3) Parallax adjustment - Does it eliminate all parallax? Forget whether or not the range scale is even in the right zip code.
4) Magnification adjustment - Does magnification adjust without changing POI?
5) POI stability - Can I put a zero on it and come back later, even after some handling, and find the gun shooting to the same POI?

Then there's things like clarity, color, click feel, etc that are unimportant compared to the above.
I've never had a $1,000 scope. Maybe I need to get one.