The 2nd generation Remington factory loads were rumored to be bonded after they went to the heavier jackets. I am hoarding those for deer and they are good for Turkey too where you don't want them to fragment.

Not sure when Remington switched to the Hornaday 25 instead of the in house 25? Sometime in the early 90's I think.

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