I'm pushing them with 55.0 grains H4198 (slightly below book max of 56.5). Did not chrony them. In a 1985 SBL. Have shot a few deer with them. They do hit hard, but as far as exit hole and blood trail, not as impressive as a smaller caliber over 3000 FPS. But, pop one through the lungs, and you should be able to find blood on most any ground surface, and 80 yards max. track job.