I tried them last year for the first time, ended up shooting 2 pigs and one deer with them.

I loaded them in T/C Carbine that is really light (right at 5#) thinking the lighter bullet weight with milder powder charges might help recoil some.

they shot well, internal damage was substantial...i was pushing them a good bit slower, probably running 2000/2100 or thereabouts, in the 16" contender barrel, with H4198.

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