Ringman, Nightforce does have good glass but still not in S&B's class...but almost. They do not have a good hunting reticle in my opinion so I lost interest years ago. The VX6, for those that just refuse to own the best, is probably the most bang for the buck for under $1000 but still not in S&B's class (close though). They have however figured out the best duplex reticle, there's is the perfect size. The best advantage I can think of w/the S&B is w/the FFP one can make the reticle any size and thickness you want. And when you think about it, if you're going to spend that much money why not put $500 with it and buy a S&B. One can find better than MAP pricing if they just shop a little bit. Mine is 20 years old and just like the Klassic's they make today. I've killed all manner of game w/it and it has never let me down. powdr
