Ringman, I agree whole heartily w/ Bobby's list even though there is more than one on the list I haven't owned. Bobby and JG are good to go when it comes to glass comparison and quality. While Bobby does not list the S&B on his list and I don't know how they do it...the S&B is still the best to me when everything is considered. They have a lot of scopes w/too short tubes that I wouldn't own but their Klassic series especially their 3-12x42 w/#4 is to me the best there is. I do not own scopes w/over a 44mm objective, their not needed. I've always felt if the market really does drive sales and the S&B was too expensive then they would go broke. Go figure. powdr

P.S. Oh, and I almost forgot...Bobby is so right about Zeiss dropping the #4 reticle. I can't see it doing anything but hurting sales.

Last edited by powdr; 11/21/15.