Your comments John make me wonder about the 28 and 30 Nosler...it would seem like Nosler is really rolling the dice on these rounds. They are sure putting on a hell of an ad campaign for two new rounds in an already very congested market. Nice rounds, but to me, their only selling point is the rounds are 30/06 length, if that's important to you. There are already plenty of established rounds that get the bullet out at the same velocity, in relative terms.