Originally Posted by battue
Perfect is subjective. Shrapnel's LW 2.5in 12 with 1oz loads will do everything a 16 with 1oz will do and probably patten better doing it. Due to less shot being deformed going down a larger tube which means more shot should arrive on target at the same time. Shotguns like that are usually not seen when it comes to American offerings.

At one time you could have them made here, but it's been a long time.


CSMC will make you what ever you want right here in the USA! But your going to pay for it.

Many people forget that there's more to a shotgun than just how much shot you can stuff in the shell. 1 1/4oz 3" 20ga shells throw notoriously [bleep] patterns. 1 1/8oz 16 ga shells typically throw about the best pattern anyone could ask for! One major difference between US and Europe, is in the US, most people buy the newest hottest semi-auto whiz bang with super no jam technology. In Europe, they shoot doubles! In the double world, the 16 is still VERY popular, and can be had in every make of double gun. In the US, 12ga is king due to so many people hunting ducks and geese, and in general, we have very poor taste in shotguns. With that said, the 16 is still probably the best bore for upland hunters IMO. Carries like a 20, hits like a 12.... Then again, I have no use for semi-auto shotguns and believe shotguns were perfected about 100 years ago.

Last edited by jetjockey; 02/07/16.