It is my favorite and only upland gauge that I use any more for grouse and pheasants. I have two 16 gauge pump guns, a Winchester Model 12 and a Remington 31. The Winchester is a little lighter at 6 7/8 lbs compared to the Remington which wwighs in at 7 1/4. Remington has a smoother action and heavy barrel that makes its better on long crossing shots. Both very nice guns. Never felt undergound. I have made some long range shots that left my hunting buddies looking at each other. They all use 12's.
