Originally Posted by Everyday Hunter
Originally Posted by 4ager
Sorry, but 60-70 yards out in a field is a dead bird here. The pattern is .224" in diameter at the muzzle, 30 yards, or 130 yards.

Unless I feel like being completely humbled and I take the bow...

First, I said he was 60-70 yards away, headed for a field. I don't know if he ever got to the field or not, and I never said I saw him in the field. If I had, I might have had a chance of calling him.

Second, a .224 pattern (or .177, or .244, or .257, or...) is illegal in many states, including where I hunt. With a shotgun I've only ever taken two shots beyond 35 yards, and usually I like them at 30. They fall down dead every time.

Besides, when I saw that bird at 60-70 yards, I don't think you could have shot him. He was one the move and I got only glimpses of him as he moved through the leafed-out vegetation.

But carry on.
Steve.


Hey, no slight intended, Steve. Rifles are legal here, and used effectively. So, too, are bows legal - though their effectiveness is (shall we say) less so. wink

Originally Posted by Mannlicher
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