Just for clarity, y'all talking Wingmasters or Express Models? Technically you can call an Express an 870 but it's a far cry from the Wingmaster imho. Sorta tarnishes the good name the Wingmaster built over many years of reliable service. I sure hope Remington hasn't mucked up the QC so bad as to ruin the Wingmaster.


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