The damn F-35 (sorry to even mention it, jorge) is a loud sumbeach, too. I'm just exactly nine miles from Hill AFB, as the crows and sound waves fly. As I type this, I can hear F-35s taking off and turning out over the desert. There's a distinct difference between them and our good old F-16s. It used to take at least a two-ship formation takeoff to rattle my windows like just one F-35 does. I genuinely pity the folks who live closer to the base.
