Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by Bob_B257
Got my first look at a rifle bore through a bore scope today. Wow. The things you see. Only wish I could have gotten some before and after photos. Have been running in a circle with a 1950’s 722 in 257Roberts bought recently. A good friend who puts a lot of effort in to the benchrest side of shooting invited me to his shop to investigate. Well that barrel was coppered heavy, and has a bit of pitting out near the muzzle.
I had given what I thought was a good effort on it with Montana extreme at my place last month. Much to the dismay of others living in the area above my gun cave. Overnight soaks for three cycles.
So in steps we got after it with some various products. This included Bore Tech eliminator, JB paste, Kroil and a good amount of patches. (Plus a nice bore guide, stock cover and other rods/jags etc). When we called a truce the inner appearance was amazingly different.
I don’t know how it’s going to shoot and won’t see a range for a good bit due to work, but will report on that when the day comes.
Just really blown away by how much fowling was in that barrel and the efforts it took to get close to clean. I’m sure it’s a candidate for DBC and will look into that this spring as time allows.
For those of you with a scope it must be entertaining seeing the look of friends when you show them what they are missing.


Bore scopes and factory rifles dont belong together. Also would not subject a friend to the anguish of seeing what the bore actually looks like.

Exactly. Sometimes "ignorance is bliss". Like JB said, some bores may look like crap, yet still shoot very well. The OP should have known the bore was horribly copper fouled, by the way it was shooting, and you can generally see horrible copper fouling with the naked eye. What he did find out is his cleaning regiment was very faulty. Maybe he will learn to use better products down the road. There are guys that brag about not ever cleaning their rifles, but not using the proper cleaning agents or practices is just about as bad.

Also, guys that use a bore scope before firing a rifle, to determine it's bad, are clueless as to how the rifle is going to shoot as well. Some bores are way less than perfect, yet they shoot lights out.

Having read a whole lot of “clean my rifle” threads here I’ve acquired a good number of brushes,rods, jags, and bottles of stuff.
What I saw work on this barrel that my others don’t need to shoot was a drill motor, brass brush with a patch of JB, then a whole lot of patches with Bore Tech product. The work was more since time to soak was not an option.
The unanswered question is whether or not the 10 shots fired at the target after a multi session soak overnight with another product had “cleaned the barrel or not”. Can’t say because I don’t own a scope. But will definitely report back on what this gun shoots like and how dirty it is after the next trip to the range when work allows.


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