I could reload if I get the urge, as I think that the .308 and 8x57 brass I have could be used with expanders. Don't know why I save the brass in the first place, just do. I think the Whelen or the 9.3x62 would be viable alternatives with factory fodder. But I have a shoulder that's not in great shape and thought that the .358 or the 9.3x57 might be slightly easier to endure. The only two factory loadings from Norma for the 9.3x57 are a 286 and a 230 grain load, while there are at least three factory loads for the .358 (and the Ruger Hawkeye is tempting, esp. given the price of the Savage 99s. Can anyone commnent as to the recoil level of the factory loads in either caliber?