Seafare I agree with you holehardly, the wind moves the bullet to much for varmint hunting. I went prairie dog hunting in Co. and the wind always blows. My main rifle is a rem. bdl in .223. I had a vais break put on the rifle and when you pull the trigger the rifle does not move, you can see the bullet hit the dogs. I shoot a 40 gr hornady v-max with 26.5 win 748. I am think about selling the rem 17 fireball. thanks for your thoughts