Well TOM, they only have one bag of 17 Fireball brass left as I bought the other one last night...

I am borrowing a 17 Fireball chambered in an Encore Set up from a gun smith buddy over here in GP..

Well see if it gives me anything the 223 isn't...looking at charges of 15 grains of powder or so.. that is all I am putting in the 223.. or less, so the amount of reduced recoil isn't going to be much, if any at all...and in the 223 I can see the bullet hits within the scope on these light loads also...

but I am going to try it out... if it doesn't work out for me, I've already told VG he can have the components I have picked up to load for it...

We'll see how it works out... if I don't care for it afterwards... well.. what can I say?

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