I don't disagree. What I am saying is among those "honorable" people, if it's tied down it helps to avoid misunderstandings.
If they are slimy then it really doesn't matter, you're screwed.
There is no accounting for taste.
Experience is a great thing as long as one survives it.
Generally, there ain't a lot that separates the two however,
Barely making it is a whole lot more satisfying than barely not making it.
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