In a long throated rifle 52 gr H414 is nothing hot. In others it will be. When I first bought my Ruger (which is long throated) I had some rounds I had loaded for my M70 with 140's and 4350 that chrono'd 2875 in the Win. They didn't break 2700 fps in the Ruger. 52 gr H414 is great in it and goes over 2900 fps. I have shot thousands of these as this is my main hunting caliber. Loading data will vary immensely. You couldn't get enough 4350 in a Win case to hit 2800 fps in the Ruger!
