No, I owe you an apology. I�m sorry, I'm only 51 and I'm turning into an old, grumpy, curmudgeon already. Your points were all valid, and frankly, I didn�t disagree with any of them really. I think hunting ammo can be improved the most by neck-turning, cleaning the neck up, and insuring there isn�t a thick side of the neck, helping to keep most of the neck tensions the same.