That's it Ranch..Few and I mean Few, have seen what a worn out old Rancher living in Elk country has. grin

The city slickers just talk ballistics and don't forget the need for speed..The ones that have just done it all there lives,just talk about what has filled there freezers for more years than we want to admit..

This day and age it is ballistics that sell,not what used to and still kills the most.

I remember once with my faithful 30-30 this huge old toothless bull my Dad said to pass on..............I paid for that one until it was all gone...He blamed his need for dentures on it...

I'm getting hungry for a salad. grin

Jayco