I totally agree with you AcesNeights, I was just being sarcastic in response to most of the rather simple minded posts on the subject. It is always easy to blame what you really have no understanding about other than what you read that some idiot posts on an open forum. I've been a working IBEW member for 25 years now. Proud of the work I've done over the years and the living it has provided for myself and my family. I own firearms, hunt, am a voting registered Republican and pay in the 34% tax bracket. I have non-union electricians come to me weekly wanting to know how to get in the union workforce. I take the time to explain the Apprenticeship program and the training involved and most don't want to make the commitment. I understand that is their choice and take the time to answer their questions anyway. Shame more people can't be more open minded also. I hope everyone has a good evening, but I have to get to bed. Last weekend of gun season here in KY for zone 3.