Originally Posted by reelman


BULL! They may kill a deer or hog at close range but they are the bare minimum for deer sized game. Standard rule of thumb is 1000 ft/lbs for deer and neither of those comes close. People have killed deer with 22lr's but I wouldn't call them adequate for deer would you? It seems when it comes to hogs people pull out all kinds of odd stuff to shoot them with that they wouldn't consider to shoot a deer with and that aren't even legal to shoot a deer with in a lot of states.



If one thinks that it takes 1,000 foot pounds of kinetic energy to reliably kill deer then let us examine this number. Let's even pretend that we are talking about a 200 pound deer a rather large one. Then 200 divided into 1,000 means that is 5 FPE per pound of body weight. Now we are after an Alaskan Moose that can easily weight 2000 pounds or more but let us pretend that the moose weighs 1,500 pounds then using 5 FPE per pound of body weight means that 7,500 FPE is required. A 12,000 pound bull elephant would require 60,000 FPE. Now we are beginning to see the silliness of using FPE as a measure of lethality



Apparently these animals could not read such so called experts and did not know that they were not supposed to die with such a small amount of energy

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Only 1 shot was required for them to give up the ghost WOW who'ed a thunk it, if they read such silly assed so called experts that measure lethality with FPE


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