Use AB's 140 in 7/08 and 160's in 7Mag and 7WSM on hogs and whitetails with nary a problem.
Ain't found one yet and most went high into shoulders.
Had bad experiences with NBT when they first came out and haven't used them since.
I'm sure they're fine now, as a friend and son have smoked truck loads of hogs with them out of 7/08's and 7Mags.
I just never got around to using them again.
