SAS,

I've shot off a cheap rest and off my pack with the same results, but I gotta use that firm grip. Or the sling. I posted some ugly pics of "tight hold" vs "loose grip" in another thread. Those pics were from Dec 2013.

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Just found some targets I forgot about. Same deal below, "tight hold" vs "loose grip". The 120gr NBT is ~1" high, the 120gr TTSX is ~2". I shoot both to 500y with the same scope zero. The NBT is 100fps faster. The TTSX is my hunting bullet.

I really haven't noticed any pattern with the loose grip. They can go anywhere, I think depending on the type of rest, the angle of the rifle to the target (POA), etc.

If I control the fore-end, either with a firm grip or with the sling, I do much better.

Jason

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