WHY does everyone want to use hardcast???? That is like shooting an elk with a 458 Winchester mag SOLID.
You certainly know my pref in the 444 and it sure isn't hard cast.My 310 gr gas check cast 30:1 will not only penetrate plenty but created havoc on the vitals as it blows through.If rock hard bullets were so necessary then we'd all be shooting solids.A good 300-400 grainer outta either the 444 or 45/70 at modest velocities will buckle knees on most critters within ones own comfort zone and do it efficiently even at extended ranges.