Admittedly, Redneck sees the ones that have problems. That said, after a certain number, patterns start to emerge. Over the years, I have had quite a number of friends and acquaintances, most of whom were new to hunting, that purchased various versions of this series of autoloading rifles. None that I know of still own them. They traded them for bolt rifles or for BARs, if they still felt the need for an autoloading big game rifle.