A Lyman 311041 at about 1700 fps from a .30-30 at 50 yards...tumble lubed as previously described. The alloy is fairly soft with a BHN of 10-11. It isn't match grade accuracy, but it isn't deer/hog friendly either.

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This was shot with a Savage 24, front rest with a red dot sight. My guess is that a regular scope would cut the group size by about 30%

I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain