Originally Posted by 4ager
The .38 Super is, for all intents and purposes, a .357 Magnum. The .357 is still king of one-shot stop data.

Imagine a .357 Sig with a straight-wall case for the 1911. That's the Super and it was the "Sig" 65 years before the Sig came out.
I didn't think you put any stock in the "One Shot Stop" data. I haven't seen a compilation for a number of years. The last that I knew of had the 40 S&W as tops, having eclipsed the 357 Mag. after that round had been the top stopper for a number of years. Not nearly as much data existed for the Super or 10, IIRC. Those are specific loads though and not some summation of the whole cartridge.