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You're in good company on the 'fire. This place is overrun with neocons, RINOS, & liberals. And you guys go out of your way to attack conservatives.

After what you guys did to the only patriot in the '12 election, and the only candidate that could've whipped Obamanation, I'll go with the predictability of stupidity. You're gonna help Hillary waltz into the Oval Office.

You might want to keep this in mind in case you didn't figure it out in the '12 election: conservatives are long past done with neocon/RINO/liberal candidates. If you guys nominal another liberal like Romney, I can tell you right now how the election will turn out.

Bistoe, I don't miss the neocons, RINO's, & liberals on the fire, but I sure as heck miss you. You are one of my favorite posters on this joint.

I'm with you again. If it ain't Rand Paul, it won't matter who loses because America will lose.

My fear is what you guys did to the GOP: turned it in to the party of Democratic Light. There is no difference between the Democratic Party and the party of Democratic Light. That's why, like a lot of conservatives, I'm no longer a Republican. I didn't leave the Republican Party. It left me.

I ain't sure what a mainstream conservative is. Might be code for getting another liberty-stealing neocon interventionist elected.

You shoulda learned in '12 that this is a losing strategy. I know of no authentic conservative that voted for the gun-grabbing, baby-killing liberal, Romney.

No more neocons, RINOS, or liberals. Vote Rand Paul.

The 2nd Amendment needs to be protected, marijuana needs to be legalized and Rand Paul needs to be POTUS.

They all have something in common though...their cheerleaders scare off the fans.

Consider the supporters of Paul on this site and your post becomes a profundity... BTW, I am on record as stating I would vote for (actually AGAINST ANY democrat) Paul if he was the candidate, but those same cheerleaders fail to grasp that concept...

A lot of us want a good strong conservative for president. But if all you have to choose from is a Moderate Republican or a Socialist, Communist, Marxist Democrat, you have to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. So because all of the conservative voters stayed home and pouted, we ended up with the Socialist, Communist, Marxist. Boy, that worked out well.

I don't feel scary, nor do I think I appear that way. I try to do the right thing first and look to appearances second. Sometimes doing the right thing and doing what appears to be the right thing are not one in the same. I will go out of my way to make sure my actions are not portrayed wrongly. At some point though, it is up to the viewer to make the distinction between what is truly good and bad.

As to the foreign policy issue...I believe that pacifists get run over. I also believe that we cannot continue to be a free country unless we allow others to do so minus a clear and direct threat. We also cannot afford to be the world's policeman. Many on here decry public schools shouting that they don't want to pay for somebody else's kids. Fair enough, but I don't want to pay for somebody else's defense.

Wrong. Nearly everybody on this site, voted in the exact manner you describe...for McClown and Romney. That's what I did. The big boys and their mouthpiece, the media, made sure you had only an ultra liberal or a liberal to vote for. McClown and Romney were backup plans that didn't have to come into play. We aren't being outvoted due to conservatives staying home. We are being outvoted due to systematic treason endemic in both parties with it easily visible in the lack of any security on our southern border and the lack of almost any rudimentary checks on who votes and how many times. We are outnumbered.

http://www.breitbart.com/
333,000 Votes in 4 Swing States Would Have Given Romney the Presidency
by Michael Patrick Leahy11 Nov 2012
On November 6,  2012, 3.2 million fewer Americans voted for Mitt Romney than President Obama. 61.8 million Americans voted for Obama, while only 58.6 million voted for Romney.

Despite losing the popular vote 51% to 48%–not a landslide for Obama by any means, but on the other hand not the “neck and neck” outcome many predicted–Mitt Romney would be President today if he had secured 333,908 more votes in four key swing states.
The final electoral college count gave President Obama a wide 332 to 206 margin over Romney. 270 electoral college votes are needed to win the Presidency.

Romney lost New Hampshire’s 4 electoral college votes by a margin of 40,659. Obama won with 368,529 to Romney’s  327,870.

Romney lost Florida’s 29 electoral college votes  by a margin of 73,858. Obama won with 4,236,032 to Romney’s 4,162,174.

Romney lost Ohio’s 18 electoral college votes by a margin of 103,481. Obama won with 2,697,260 to Romney’s 2,593,779 

Romney lost Virginia’s 13 electoral college votes by a margin of 115,910. Obama won with 1,905,528 to Romney’s  1,789,618.

Add the 64 electoral college votes from this switch of 333,908 votes in these four key states to Romney’s 206, remove them from Obama’s 332, and Romney defeats Obama 270 to 268.

OR you could count the numbers this way...
Florida: 73,858
Ohio: 103,481
Virginia: 115,910
Colorado: 113,099
Those four states, with a collective margin of, 406,348 for Obama, add up to 69 electoral votes. Had Romney won 407,000 or so additional votes in the right proportion in those states, he would have 275 electoral votes.

Who is there among the GOP candidates who could do better than Romney?

Paul would get my vote if he was the GOP nominee, without question.

All of them but Bush. (Edited to add..and Graham)

Egads! Hope springs eternal. Kinda sweet you haven't given up hope B.


but here's the rub, stuff is so far gone the other way, any candidate that could/would point the country in the right direction is going to be vilified for trying to destroy the country

particularly if that candidate is for the Constitution and sound money principles.


from my perspective the die is cast


our 200 years was up in 1976, been some great times since then, thankful to have lived in this truly glorious age.


but from what I can glean tptb have put us in a predicament.


maybe it'll work out just fine. got another maybe 20 years to see it play out.

hope I like what I see as I've kids and grandkids.


hoping they have the same chances at the good life we've all been given.

Thank you.

Thank you again.

That's why Wall Street and the establishment propped up Romney. They figured anybody could beat Obama and they didn't want radical change.

Actually, my expectations have been reduced to supporting a candidate who will do no further harm in the short term.

Long term, it's got to play out.

A fair number of the field consists of owned, idiot warmongers. Hillary is one of them.

Do I believe that Rand Paul can fix America?

No,...

But maybe an administration headed by him can ward off WW3 for a few more years.

The neocons are truly maniacs.

good read:

http://buchanan.org/blog/a-u-s-russia-war-over-ukraine-15894