It's almost like we are living in an alternate reality. A GOP senator pushing for gun control. Geez. It was a 'senseless tragedy' that pushed gun control over the top in Australia and the UK. We can't let this happen here. link to story
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In the wake of the Charleston shooting, Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) are considering ways to renew their failed push to pass meaningful gun-control legislation.
In separate interviews Tuesday night, at a reception before a ceremony hosted by Sandy Hook families where Toomey was honored, the senators discussed their desire to find a new way forward.
“We want to make sure we have the votes. Pat’s going to have to, and I’ll work with him, to get some of our colleagues on the Republican side,” Manchin said, adding that he hasn’t talked directly to Toomey about a revival.
Manchin specifically mentioned an effort aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of people diagnosed with mental illness. Though the effort is far from being fully formed, Toomey also said he’s looking for opportunities to reintroduce something related to combating gun violence.
“What I’m trying to figure out is, is there something that could get the support of the 60 votes that we would need in the Senate,” Toomey said. “Joe Manchin was and is a great partner and someone I will continue to work with, and I’m open to exploring what is possible.”
He added that nothing was imminent, “but if we stay at it I think we’ll find a way to make progress.”
If the two senators team up to tackle any facet of gun control, it would mark a significant shift in the political debate nearly a week after nine people were killed at a Bible study group in downtown Charleston, S.C.
Given the diversity of backgrounds of the perpetrators of such crimes as these, the only thing you could do is craft a law that would have prevented THAT person from doing the crime. It would, of course, be useless for the NEXT guy. Nonetheless, the rest of us would still be fettered by a useless law that would not affect the people actually doing the crime.....oh wait....yup....that is where we are NOW!
It's almost like we are living in an alternate reality. A GOP senator pushing for gun control. Geez. It was a 'senseless tragedy' that pushed gun control over the top in Australia and the UK. We can't let this happen here. link to story
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In the wake of the Charleston shooting, Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) are considering ways to renew their failed push to pass meaningful gun-control legislation.
In separate interviews Tuesday night, at a reception before a ceremony hosted by Sandy Hook families where Toomey was honored, the senators discussed their desire to find a new way forward.
“We want to make sure we have the votes. Pat’s going to have to, and I’ll work with him, to get some of our colleagues on the Republican side,” Manchin said, adding that he hasn’t talked directly to Toomey about a revival.
Manchin specifically mentioned an effort aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of people diagnosed with mental illness. Though the effort is far from being fully formed, Toomey also said he’s looking for opportunities to reintroduce something related to combating gun violence.
“What I’m trying to figure out is, is there something that could get the support of the 60 votes that we would need in the Senate,” Toomey said. “Joe Manchin was and is a great partner and someone I will continue to work with, and I’m open to exploring what is possible.”
He added that nothing was imminent, “but if we stay at it I think we’ll find a way to make progress.”
If the two senators team up to tackle any facet of gun control, it would mark a significant shift in the political debate nearly a week after nine people were killed at a Bible study group in downtown Charleston, S.C.
more at the link, of course, and it's all bad.
Very few elected officials really like freedom, unless it's their own. Most of those we have who support freedom only do so because they feel like it is what gets them re-elected or finances their campaigns. The biggest threat I see is through Universal Registration. There are plenty including some here, who support it and it can be convoluted to look like it doesn't actually register us. Then it can be sold through that and under the guise of keeping weapons out of the hands of the mentally unstable. Never mind the fact that it has been repeated time and again that to the enemy, all of us Constitutionalists are to be classified as such.
Appeasers, idiots and outright traitors make me sick. Some will be along shortly to comment on this, no doubt.
Almost all of the mass shootings in this country are committed by someone that is or has been treated for a mental illness. Yet the HIPPA laws prevent any kind of sharing of that data. I would not be opposed to tying those mental health records into the instant background check system if it would keep a few mentally disturbed individuals from getting guns. And in addition, make it a crime with really stiff penalties if anyone were to obtain a gun for them.
A simple commonsense measure such as this should not impact the honest gun owner and may help make it more difficult for the mentally disturbed to get firearms.
Heaven has a wall, a gate and strict immigration policy.
Almost all of the mass shootings in this country are committed by someone that is or has been treated for a mental illness. Yet the HIPPA laws prevent any kind of sharing of that data. I would not be opposed to tying those mental health records into the instant background check system if it would keep a few mentally disturbed individuals from getting guns. And in addition, make it a crime with really stiff penalties if anyone were to obtain a gun for them.
A simple commonsense measure such as this should not impact the honest gun owner and may help make it more difficult for the mentally disturbed to get firearms.
More wisdom from the state that brought you the politician pushing for this. It is never not so.
When all is said and done, the entire matter actually rests in the hands of people who know and see such gutter evil incubating and say nothing. Most times, nobody wants to "rat" somebody out. That needs to change.
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Almost all of the mass shootings in this country are committed by someone that is or has been treated for a mental illness. Yet the HIPPA laws prevent any kind of sharing of that data. I would not be opposed to tying those mental health records into the instant background check system if it would keep a few mentally disturbed individuals from getting guns. And in addition, make it a crime with really stiff penalties if anyone were to obtain a gun for them.
A simple commonsense measure such as this should not impact the honest gun owner and may help make it more difficult for the mentally disturbed to get firearms.
The problem is, I do not trust the people that would be responsible for establishing the "threshold" . The line that establishes the tipping point could well be a problem. The answer to this, would be that the friends and family of individuals that might be prone to this sort of thing, be trusted to police their own. Freedom is not free, and it is not without risk. We simply cannot restrict the rights of the many, to POSSIBLY prevent the crimes of a very, very few. That is the reality. You cannot guarantee safety.
With the recent traitorous acts from the GOP and passing the trade bills, I put nothing past them. Seems like the GOP has made an about face, not that they were exactly on our side before, but things are blatantly in our face now.
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