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The current crop of GOP leadership is a sellout to the democrats and others like the US Chamber of Commerce. They have in large part rolled over for Obama. they have recursed to use their power of the purse, they are mainly backers of his "fast track" trade initiative which includes veiled language on climate change and immigration.
So its no surprise that the likes of Toomey and those who choose to be followers
would support additional 2A laws.
Not only do elections matter but the right kind of candidate is more important.
My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
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Make you feel any better? It is you that best wake up because your attitude ain't gonna get us gun owners anywhere. Talk is cheap and it is a low life type person that resorts to personal attacks rather than debate an issuem
My good old daddy taught me to never argue with an idiot, you qualify. Got it?
The only disgrace is those gun owners that cower and do not fight for freedoms that millions of Americans have died for. You may roll over and expose your soft underbelly if you want. But, they will have their hands full with the rest of us. Got it?
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Let's get one fact straight. I do NOT support the gun control laws we have now and certainly would prefer no more.
But you internet hero's that talk tough better get your heads out of the sand because if we all adopt your attitudes, we ARE gonna lose BIG.
Life is full of compromise, do I like it, HELL NO. But the deck is stacked against us and we are gonna have to compromise to stay alive in this fight, and the compromises that do not effect the honest legal gun owners, if there is such a thing are the only ones I could support.
I live in the country, a rurual area, but guys wake up! The controlling votes are in the big cities! They control the destiny of this country because they have the votes, and the majority of the time they ain't in our favor. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." I've read that several times now and I'm just not seeing the word compromise in it anywhere? Guys, am I just overlooking it, or IS IT NOT THERE!?
When I die I hope I don't start voting democrat.
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WTF can the GOP not figure out that most of us want a party of political platforms, not social feel good bull chit. Leave that for the Dems.
Run the fuggin' government, don't try to run my life.
You're starting to catch on to the real .gov agenda, huh? Seems every time something that sounds halfway decent crops up, the message gets pilfered by some special interest social bull chit. Whether it's queers, evangelicals, or whatever crap gets people cranked up. They deserve each other.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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WTF can the GOP not figure out that most of us want a party of political platforms, not social feel good bull chit. Leave that for the Dems.
Run the fuggin' government, don't try to run my life.
You're starting to catch on to the real .gov agenda, huh? Seems every time something that sounds halfway decent crops up, the message gets pilfered by some special interest social bull chit. Whether it's queers, evangelicals, or whatever crap gets people cranked up. They deserve each other. Caligula would be proud.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Many of you on this site want no gun control, and so would I IF it would work. Problem is it will not. Too many forces against us. So unfortunately compromises are going to have to be made. IF and I do mean IF legislation could be written to keep the nutjobs from getting some guns without effecting the honest gunowner, I could support it.
We already have background checks, in this day of computer technology how hard would it be to throw in the records of mental patients? The question is already asked on the form, why not a means to verify it? You're a [bleep] disgrace to the nation, the Constitution, the Second Amendment, that abortion of a state you call home, and especially to the organization in your sig line that you claim to support. Clear it up any? THIS...
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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There's a banning I can get behind!
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Let's get one fact straight. I do NOT support the gun control laws we have now and certainly would prefer no more.
But you internet hero's that talk tough better get your heads out of the sand because if we all adopt your attitudes, we ARE gonna lose BIG.
Life is full of compromise, do I like it, HELL NO. But the deck is stacked against us and we are gonna have to compromise to stay alive in this fight, and the compromises that do not effect the honest legal gun owners, if there is such a thing are the only ones I could support.
I live in the country, a rurual area, but guys wake up! The controlling votes are in the big cities! They control the destiny of this country because they have the votes, and the majority of the time they ain't in our favor. I'd rather see you kicked off this site than Larry Root.
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So Patrick Toomey is a Pennsylvania Republican who is for gun control. 
Last edited by Hotload; 06/24/15.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much" Teddy Roosevelt
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So Patrick Toomey is a Pennsylvania Republican who is for gun control. Yep. He's the entire GOP.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Campfire Ranger
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The innocent among us have to realize that the POL's do not want gun control but total removal of guns from our society. I just cannot believe that people are this dense. All the POL's are doing every year is incrementally tightening the noose around our throat.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Let's get one fact straight. I do NOT support the gun control laws we have now and certainly would prefer no more.
But you internet hero's that talk tough better get your heads out of the sand because if we all adopt your attitudes, we ARE gonna lose BIG.
Life is full of compromise, do I like it, HELL NO. But the deck is stacked against us and we are gonna have to compromise to stay alive in this fight, and the compromises that do not effect the honest legal gun owners, if there is such a thing are the only ones I could support.
I live in the country, a rurual area, but guys wake up! The controlling votes are in the big cities! They control the destiny of this country because they have the votes, and the majority of the time they ain't in our favor. I'd rather see you kicked off this site than Larry Root. Why? He's not attacking anyone, just stating his opinion, albeit one many don't like to hear. Could it be because there is more truth there than is palatable? Tell him where he's wrong, not that he should be banned.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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What we need to do is .....vote.......lol....
I work harder than a ugly stripper....
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Let's get one fact straight. I do NOT support the gun control laws we have now and certainly would prefer no more.
But you internet hero's that talk tough better get your heads out of the sand because if we all adopt your attitudes, we ARE gonna lose BIG.
Life is full of compromise, do I like it, HELL NO. But the deck is stacked against us and we are gonna have to compromise to stay alive in this fight, and the compromises that do not effect the honest legal gun owners, if there is such a thing are the only ones I could support.
I live in the country, a rurual area, but guys wake up! The controlling votes are in the big cities! They control the destiny of this country because they have the votes, and the majority of the time they ain't in our favor. Yep. Pennsylvania. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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So Patrick Toomey is a Pennsylvania Republican who is for gun control. Yep. He's the entire GOP. Getting so you can't tell the Republicans from the SOB Democrats
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much" Teddy Roosevelt
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The innocent among us have to realize that the POL's do not want gun control but total removal of guns from our society. I just cannot believe that people are this dense. All the POL's are doing every year is incrementally tightening the noose around our throat. Exactly!
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Manchin is a back-stabbing jerk who ran his last gubernatorial election in my state with a TV add showing him shooting a Ruger bolt action and stating that he would never support gun control. It's not gun control we need, it's weirdo control.
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In a time and place where one could completely trust the government (if such a place ever existed or could exist) one could see the utility of limiting the insane from possession of firearms and linking up the databases. However, only a fool would trust this government and we know that it would soon be nothing more than a tool to further disarm us.
And EVEN IF, the government operated in complete good faith and we trusted it, there would still be very negative consequences. For instance, lots and lots of whackos out there with guns. How so? Well, as soon as they link those databases, you can bet that anyone who owns guns or even thinks they might want to someday won't so much as even go to a marriage counselor, much less try to get help for a legitimate mental issue. So, instead of guys getting help for problems that might easily be controlled with drugs or therapy, they are going to be running around out there getting crazier and crazier because they are worried about the government using that condition to deprive them of their constitutional rights. Such a move would be bad for both mental health and gun violence. But, it is what will eventually happen and as with almost all governmental actions, the unintended consequences will be worse than the supposed cure.
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Two Trax has a point; I mean outlawing drugs as worked out just fine. Maybe next we should outlaw cameras so that we don't have any more child porn.
Sandy Hook blew over and this will too. No sense starting to cave-in - we have the constitution on our side.
If you start compromising and tragic events keep happening your compromise will be viewed as not enough and they will want more and more and more. It's best to never start down that road becuase once you acknowledge (incorrectly I might add) that they are free to interfere with gun purchases you have opened the door forever.
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Remember, if a black man had gunned down nine whites in a church so he could start a race war we wouldn't be having the conversation about gun control, but rather, why the poor black fellow felt so oppressed by the whites that he had to resort to killing them.
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